Give suspects in rape cases anonymity to prevent the innocent becoming 'stigmatised',

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The identities of men accused of rape and other sex crimes should be kept secret unless they are found guilty in court, a leading lawyer said yesterday.
Maura McGowan, a deputy High Court judge and chief of the professional body for barristers, said the law should protect the identity of those charged with sex offences because the crimes ‘carry such a stigma’.

‘Until they have been proven to have done something as awful as this – I think there is a strong argument in cases of this sort, because they carry such stigma with them, to maintain the defendant’s anonymity, until he is convicted,’ she said.

‘But once the defendant is convicted then of course everything should be open to scrutiny and to the public.’
Miss McGowan, who is chairman of the Bar Council, acknowledged that there were arguments in favour of allowing suspects to be named.

‘There is obviously a public interest in open justice,’ she said. ‘People would say that they are entitled to know not simply who has been convicted but who has been accused.’

She added that if Jimmy Savile had been accused of sex crimes when he was alive he should have been named. ‘In a case like that, people would say, if one complainant comes forward against a person it might give other people who don’t know her, but who went through the same experience, the courage to come forward as well.’

The idea of anonymity for rape defendants was a surprise inclusion in the list of promises made by David Cameron and Nick Clegg when the Coalition was formed in 2010.
 
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The identities of men accused of rape and other sex crimes should be kept secret unless they are found guilty in court, a leading lawyer said yesterday.
Maura McGowan, a deputy High Court judge and chief of the professional body for barristers, said the law should protect the identity of those charged with sex offences because the crimes ‘carry such a stigma’.

‘Until they have been proven to have done something as awful as this – I think there is a strong argument in cases of this sort, because they carry such stigma with them, to maintain the defendant’s anonymity, until he is convicted,’ she said.

‘But once the defendant is convicted then of course everything should be open to scrutiny and to the public.’
Miss McGowan, who is chairman of the Bar Council, acknowledged that there were arguments in favour of allowing suspects to be named.

‘There is obviously a public interest in open justice,’ she said. ‘People would say that they are entitled to know not simply who has been convicted but who has been accused.’

She added that if Jimmy Savile had been accused of sex crimes when he was alive he should have been named. ‘In a case like that, people would say, if one complainant comes forward against a person it might give other people who don’t know her, but who went through the same experience, the courage to come forward as well.’

The idea of anonymity for rape defendants was a surprise inclusion in the list of promises made by David Cameron and Nick Clegg when the Coalition was formed in 2010.

Apparently Maura McGowan, Chairwoman of Bar Council is an FRA (Female Rape Apologist). I wonder how people know that the anonymity of men was removed in 1988 by Margaret Thatcher's government?


Alleged victims of certain sexual offences, including rape, have been entitled to lifelong anonymity after making their complaint, since 1976.

Anonymity can be lifted if the complainant chooses to reveal their identity of if the court orders it to encourage witnesses to come forward.

The Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 1976, which brought in anonymity for complainants, also provided for anonymity for defendants.

This was done to provide equality between complainants and defendants, and to protect potentially innocent defendants from stigma.

This provision was repealed in 1988, meaning those accused of sexual offences no longer have any particular entitlement to anonymity.

Source: parliament.uk

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stigmatised-says-barrister.html#ixzz2LYJ1rXtH

 
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You choose a 'hot potato' issue here, mate.....and you see no one wants to go out on a limb to say anything.....
We all know that just the accusation of child molestation or rape can ruin a life even if eventually proven innocent...thats
a fact of life, like it or not. Its already happened to school teachers, fathers, etc.....kids can be cruel little bastards in todays
'get even' world.....if you've ever had a son or daughter bullied in school, you already know that.
 
You choose a 'hot potato' issue here, mate.....and you see no one wants to go out on a limb to say anything.....
We all know that just the accusation of child molestation or rape can ruin a life even if eventually proven innocent...thats
a fact of life, like it or not. Its already happened to school teachers, fathers, etc.....kids can be cruel little bastards in todays
'get even' world.....if you've ever had a son or daughter bullied in school, you already know that.

I have never been one to back away from something just because it is a "sensitive" issue. This is being actively debated over here and it is just ironic that a woman namely Margaret Thatcher brought it in and another woman wants to remove it.
 
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You choose a 'hot potato' issue here, mate.....and you see no one wants to go out on a limb to say anything.....
We all know that just the accusation of child molestation or rape can ruin a life even if eventually proven innocent...thats
a fact of life, like it or not. Its already happened to school teachers, fathers, etc.....kids can be cruel little bastards in todays
'get even' world.....if you've ever had a son or daughter bullied in school, you already know that.

Yes I have a son who was bullied in school, he was endlessly called a Chinky by a bunch of Pakistani louts. Fucking ironic really when you consider how pissed off they get if someone calls them a Paki. It wasn't even accurate as he is half Thai not Chinese.

I went down to the school and gave the headmaster a bollocking because it was obvious that he was terrified to do anything because of political correctness. I told him, in no uncertain terms, that I would take it higher and he relented and suspended the ring leaders for two weeks.
 
Yes I have a son who was bullied in school, he was endlessly called a Chinky by a bunch of Pakistani louts. Fucking ironic really when you consider how pissed off they get if someone calls them a Paki. It wasn't even accurate as he is half Thai not Chinese.

I went down to the school and gave the headmaster a bollocking because it was obvious that he was terrified to do anything because of political correctness. I told him, in no uncertain terms, that I would take it higher and he relented and suspended the ring leaders for two weeks.

Same problem here....only in the US its the dreadful fear of being labeled a racist or bigot...or even worse, a Republican lol...
and believe me...telling the truth is no protection......if pinheads can spin and twist what you've said to label you, they will, at every opportunity.
You must have seen it here thousands of times.....lol
 
A good tactic would be to post articles that you care about, rather than just ones which will enflame Darla, Tom...

That is not my primary motivation but I agree it's certainly helps. It just goes to show how much more advanced we are in the UK than the US, there you are terrified to even discuss it for fear of pissing off the Darlas of the world. Here we have the head of the Bar Council, who is a woman, calling for the end to the injustice.
 
Re: Give suspects in rape cases anonymity to prevent the innocent becoming 'stigmati

Why would you single out rape? If it is worthwhile then why not all crimes? The perp walk is intended as punishment here and for all sorts of crimes.
 
Re: Give suspects in rape cases anonymity to prevent the innocent becoming 'stigma

Police often release info on rape suspects claiming to hope that other possible victims will come forward. It would be interesting to know how often that works.
 
I don't get it. If a woman is raped, chances are she was face to face with the attacker. Plus he leaves DNA on the scene. So if visual identification and DNA match confirm identity, why should the person be anonymous? Of course this also applies to cases where the woman is the perp. Such as Ashley Campbell.

Ashley Campbell arrested for sexual abuse of student

Ashley Jean Campbell, 27, of Cochranville, Pennsylvania was arrested and charged with two counts of sexual abuse of a minor and two counts of committing a fourth-degree sex offense. Campbell was a teacher at Montrose Christian School in Rockville.

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/02/ashley-campbell-arrested-for-sexual-abuse-of-student-72430.html
 
If someone is accused of robbery and is found to be innocent, people usually go OK and let it go.
If someone is accused of car theft and is found to be innocent, people usually go OK and let it go.
If someone is accused of murder and is found to be innocent, people usually go Ok and let it go (eventually).
But accuse someone of child molestation or rape and they are found to be innnocent, people go OOOOOOkay; but the stigma never really goes away.

Conviction and then identification are fine; but what ever happened to "presumed to be innocent", prior to conviction?
 
believe it or not, letting people know why someone was arrested helps to protect the innocent. Otherwise you could just have the police arrest you without public justification as to why they did it. You could just disappear for a crime and no one would have to justify anything in order to "preserve your anonymity."

Why not protect those wrongfully accused of murder or bank robberies as well?

It's not a perfect solution, a perfect solution does not exist. It sucks all around, but I dont think there is much that could be done about it.
 
I don't get it. If a woman is raped, chances are she was face to face with the attacker. Plus he leaves DNA on the scene. So if visual identification and DNA match confirm identity, why should the person be anonymous?

because we have the presumption of innocence in this country. To play devils advocate, maybe the guy was framed, maybe the police are wrong, maybe the DNA wasn't left at the scene a certain time...who knows. I am not saying that's the way it is but there are valid logical reasons to oppose a mob mentality before a trial has even taken place.
 
If someone is accused of robbery and is found to be innocent, people usually go OK and let it go.
If someone is accused of car theft and is found to be innocent, people usually go OK and let it go.
If someone is accused of murder and is found to be innocent, people usually go Ok and let it go (eventually).
But accuse someone of child molestation or rape and they are found to be innnocent, people go OOOOOOkay; but the stigma never really goes away.

Conviction and then identification are fine; but what ever happened to "presumed to be innocent", prior to conviction?

Yeah, that's not really true, especially not with a murder accusation.
 
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