giving tax breaks with one hand
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SmarterthanYou
rebel
it's not a recoverable economy when the government is using taxpayer money to create jobs. Jobs and positive economic growth come from the private sector.
Are you serious? It doesn't mean they pay more taxes. It means they have less of their now lower taxes withheld from each paycheck than they perhaps should. In the end, their taxes will still be $400 or $800 lower as the case may be.
uscitizen
Villified User
that is funny coming from a Bushie.
Yeah, sorry "bailouts"... I should have said "bailouts". The "stimulus" is "saving" jobs... Do you know why? Because it is impossible to prove how many it "saves" and even though it is supposedly creating jobs already, we have still seen increases in the losses.
It has yet to be strongly effective.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
If they got a $400 dollar tax rebate check, then have to pay $100 of it back at tax time, their taxes got raised that year. I understand that you have to defend your dems in office, but even YOU can see the truth in the tax increase.
uscitizen
Villified User
Waah! Things are not fixed in the first hundred days of Obama.
Sheesh what a bunch of Hooverites.
I'm not crying, nor even really complaining. I'm pointing out that it is yet to be strongly effective and noting that they are using the or "saved" portion a bit liberally.
Although, now that you mention it, I will also note that it will only work for so long. At some point people are not going to be satisfied with all the "saved or created" going in the "saved" column...
SmarterthanYou
rebel
why are you being obtuse? did they change the tax tables? in changing those tax tables, did the level of taxation go up? It must have if the money they recieved the year before has to be paid back, in whole or in part.
Whats not arguable is your refusal to acknowledge that taxes went up.
Not really. If you get a larger rebate than you were due it is not a tax increase when they take what you were overpaid back.
It would be like getting an extra $50 on a paycheck due to an accounting error, so instead of just making you write a check they let you keep it and took it out of the next check you received. That wouldn't make it so you got a "pay cut".
uscitizen
Villified User
Bingo!
Sammy Jankis
Was it me?
Changing the tax rates is not a beauracatic snafu, it's a tax hike. Period.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
how does one get a larger rebate than they should have?
uscitizen
Villified User
Mainly because as was stated the withholding tables are hosed.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
hosed? does that mean they are going to get fixed?
Bush spent his billions Obama his TRILLIONS! You don't quadruple a debt just because another guy spent too much...well logical fallacies of liberal thinking aside, intelligent people don't make those kinds of justifications.
Yes, the Obama shell game, isn't he the clever one.
By a mistake on the tables. Did you read the article? How does it sometimes happen that the accountants at somebody's place of work pay somebody a bit too much? Look. I may not like the politics of Obama, but that doesn't mean I have to try to spin everything that happens into "Something Evil Obama Has Done"... (Sounds like the good title of an Epic Poem. I may have to start writing it...)