No, I mean the problem is stupid. No one has ever been in such a situation. Okay, maybe three people.
God is not intelligent, or, why I am a pantheist
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Daylight63
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I disagree. While a trolly may not have been involved history is REPLETE with cases of someone making a decision balancing out hurting one person in service to some greater good.
This is the ESSENCE of utilitarianism.
Yes, why I never believed in utilitarianism.
Daylight63
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Fair enough. But you must agree that for those of us who lack the "whatever I choose to do is right" approach to morality, the choices seem very real to us.
Perhaps we are the benighted ones and those like yourself who see only "good" in their actions are the ones to inherit the future. I think you may not be alone in today's America.
You absolutely do not understand what I said about ethics.
Daylight63
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Oh, then please show me my error. I am trying to understand what you have written but you seldom actually explain your position. It leaves a lot to inference.
Please explain it to me. Thanks!
You asked me whether I have to be generous to everyone. I said, no. You made a faulty inference.
Daylight63
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No, actually I asked you in your morality which you said lacked any sort of "edict" if there was a "good" or "bad" action possible.
That was what I asked.
Sorry if you missed that the several times I asked.
Yes, there is better and worse.
Again, I said ethics is empirical.
Daylight63
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Is there any "edict" to pursue the "better"? (Even if it is simply a biological imperative)
Yes, you said that. But it was not evident in your explanation of your morality. Sorry for the confusion.
I have no interest in biological imperatives. Rather reactionary, used to justify conservatism.
Daylight63
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You keep getting sidetracked by phrases that aren't the actual point. Do you believe there is any reason to choose the "better" over the "worse"? If so I'd call that an "edict" of sorts.
I'd rather not get hit by a car. So, I don't walk in traffic.
We make judgments of better and worse all the time.
Only Christians obsess with the good in itself.
Litmus
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you've never even made a point.
Litmus
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you don't understand neitsche.
the uberman leaves society, he doesn't stick around and be a tyrant.
What ever screen name you change into, you are still the same ancestor regardless the opinions shared by people making a separation between intellectual minds and intelligent brain navigating space uniquely alive since conceived.
God is a suggestion life isn't eternally separated by genetic outcomes living here daily. Satan is the same thing as heaven belongs to tomorrow and yesterday was hell so far and yet people call the end of the day dusk, not midnight except for artificial time regulations governing behaviors midnight to noon tomorrow punishing anyone not complying noon to midnight same rotation. Add to that the artificial intellectual international dateline creating 24 time zone differentials of when dawn and dusk occur in each temperate zone being opposing seasons every rotation each side of the tropics between solstices and equinoxes 4 times a year creating 8 seasonal variances.
My point here is life evolves as eternally separating reproductions having heartbeats now. why most people regardless community theater on the world stage tend to believe life cannot exist eternally separated now and most societies encourage every generation gap to hold that faith until extinction arrives.
Extinction arrives the rotation where great great grandchildren aren't conceived anymore and the existing 5 generation gaps die off..
Litmus
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Anti accepting life as it exists specifically living eternally separated so far daily same as you do. Realities are journalized replacements of adapting as displaced daily. Be it the Bible, Quran, Tao, Science Fiction, Spiritual Fantasies, economic values, rank in social order or ancestral positions among the 16 great great grandparent generation of siblings and cousins, 8 great grandparent generation of siblings and cousins, 4 grandparent generation of siblings and cousins, 2 parenting generation adding each great great grandchild that does or doesn't become a 2 parenting generation in their time alive adapting to the moment specifically here now as you and i conversing on this website.
Genetic accountability including time alive in series parallel positions, now. Life lives eternally separated in plain sight and you demand everyone rejects that or else.
Tyrants and tyranny dictatorships or mob rule democracies, outcomes are always the same, planned obsolescence destroys genetic outcomes added so far.
Doing the same thing over and over expecting better days tomorrow defined legally as midnight to noon daily. History calls these events 7 days a week 52 times a year since birth, but evolving starts when added as a specific fertilized cell.
Litmus
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I'm stupid while you ignore the specificity of actual reason you exist same as anything else universally here now? You are a reproduction of past reproductions combined into current population and you claim pretending it isn't how life works makes you superior to anyone understanding the process inside out.
Majority ruled by speculation has the majority misled for generation gaps so far by the minority of those creating law and order societies on the world stage economically.
this is what a pantheist worships since ancient civilization recorded human behavior throughout history of governing mind over matter situations.
In Greek mythology, Pan is a god with the body of a human and the legs, horns, and hindquarters of a goat. He was the god of the wild, shepherds, flocks, and rustic music. Pan was also the leader of the satyrs, who were similar to him in appearance and character.