God is not intelligent, or, why I am a pantheist

[Cypress]

As it has always been since the beginning of homo sapiens.

That is one opinion, and it is the one most widely held by moral relativists.

 

[Hume]

That is one opinion, and it is the one most widely held by moral relativists.

you're kinda boring

 

[Daylight63]

you're kinda boring

Actually you and @Cypress are among the LEAST boring people on this forum!

 

[Hume]

Actually you and @Cypress are among the LEAST boring people on this forum!

I did not solicit your opinion.

 

[Daylight63]

I did not solicit your opinion.

That's OK. I don't care.

Seriously you and @Cypress are the only folks who seem to debate a topic at any interesting level. Even if you are a bit spicy from time to time it's all good stuff.

Don't take it as an insult. Take it as a COMPLIMENT. Seriously so.

 

[Into the Night]

Sounds like Taoism.

That's exactly what it is. He thinks his religion is original!

 

[Into the Night]

Exactly. IMO, while the Universe itself may be intelligent (on a scale well beyond our comprehension), the Universe is a bubble and a artificial creation. Whatever created the Universe is the real power.

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How do you know the Universe was created, Sybil?

 

[Into the Night]

That makes a certain amount of sense because it seems like the eternal logos, the universal spirit, or whatever you want to call it needs to transcend space and time. Some kind of purposefully organizing principle should have existed before matter and energy.

Paradox. Irrational.

 

[Into the Night]

It's always been difficult to imagine how a lawfully ordered and rationally intelligible universe could have just randomly popped into existence out of nothing. Even Hawking's conjecture about quantum fluctuation does not actually explain how or where the quantum laws of Heisenberg uncertainty came from.

Heisenberg's law does not come from anything Hawking argued. I suggest you go study the history of Heisenberg's law and how he developed it.

What am I saying??? You deny theories of science!