God or Trump?

Yakuda said:
Correct and as i have pointed out even Jesus had his limits. There seems to have been a perversion of the Christian message. Some people seem to believe the message is everything is allowable and to speak against something is not how Jesus did it. Its pure bs.
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Eschewing revenge was, and still is, a radical transformation of human ethos and behavior. Compare that to the glorification of revenge and retribution in other ancient literature.

The second most important person in the Christian tradition after Paul, Saint Augustine of Hippo, certainly didn't see there was an absolute requirement to be completely docile and pacifist in all situations. Augustine wrote that the Christian had to balance the expectations of being a Christian with the expectations of being a citizen. A citizen has an obligation to fight and serve in the military, with the only caveat that Christians should only fight in morally justifiable wars.
 
Cypress said:
Eschewing revenge was, and still is, a radical transformation of human ethos and behavior. Compare that to the glorification of revenge and retribution in other ancient literature.
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Or just look at YOURSELF. You hate with the fire of a thousand suns. Even when I've tried to reach across the aisle and be kind you hit back with hatred and anger.

This is precisely the stuff that you do that make all your talk about morality and ethics and the centrality of Jesus to Western Civilization into one giant lie.
 
Cypress said:
Eschewing revenge was, and still is, a radical transformation of human ethos and behavior. Compare that to the glorification of revenge and retribution in other ancient literature.

The second most important person in the Christian tradition after Paul, Saint Augustine of Hippo, certainly didn't see there was an absolute requirement to be completely docile and pacifist in all situations. Augustine wrote that the Christian had to balance the expectations of being a Christian with the expectations of being a citizen. A citizen has an obligation to fight and serve in the military, with the only caveat that Christians should only fight in morally justifiable wars.
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All true. Lots of people think Aquinas is more relevant though.
 
Obtenebrator said:
Or just look at YOURSELF. You hate with the fire of a thousand suns. Even when I've tried to reach across the aisle and be kind you hit back with hatred and anger.

This is precisely the stuff that you do that make all your talk about morality and ethics and the centrality of Jesus to Western Civilization into one giant lie.
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Forget your meds today Perry?
 
Cypres said:
I'M THE SMARTESTE PERSON ON JPP! SAY IT!!!!
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No.
 
God is rooting for Trump. Leftists are going against the will of God. Leftists are serving Satan.
 
Obtenebrator said:
Hey, supposedly you worship the guy. I can't help it if his instructions are harder than you are capable of so you have to come up with excuses that it's JESUS' fault not yours. :)
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no, but obviously you lie about me as much as you do about Trump.....Jesus isn't about to fall for your lies any more than the rest of us do.....
 
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