Good President or Bad, Obama will do one GREAT thing.

Onceler said:
Like I said; you continue to out-stupid yourself. Take a look at the Harold Ford race. Watts was a CONGRESSMAN. Senator is a state-wide election.

"Bush got re-elected despite those appointments" - how can someone be that dense?
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Ford did as well as white Al Gore did in Tennessee. It's a Conservative area, NOT a racist area.
 
Liberano said:
Yes they were appointed but it comes to the same thing, Bush got reelected despite those appointments and not a thing racist was said against them or Bush for those appointments.

JC Watts got elected in the south, that alone does more to dispell racism from it's strongest stereotyped area than Obama would winning nationally and losing in many states.**
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**I'm George W Bush and I approve this message.
 
Liberano said:
Yes they were appointed but it comes to the same thing, Bush got reelected despite those appointments and not a thing racist was said against them or Bush for those appointments.

JC Watts got elected in the south, that alone does more to dispell racism from it's strongest stereotyped area than Obama would winning nationally and losing in many states.
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Perhaps you were unaware that there were a bunch of southern black members of Congress in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War. Does that mean the post-Civil War south was not racist?
 
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Whiteflag said:
Only a racist would deny that racism exists.
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Did I say that dinkledork? I said they would shut up about it because you really can't come up with a bigger case that would show how tolerant America is.

And yeah if there's one person a racist wants to see elected why it's got to be a gay Jewish, black/hispanic!

I know you're pissed because of your spanking, but don't be just another in the Liberal mob.
 
Liberano said:
Ford did as well as white Al Gore did in Tennessee. It's a Conservative area, NOT a racist area.
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Oh, my lord - I just spit out my coffee.

You are a truly ignorant, stupid person, Dano.

"Bush had blacks in his cabinet, and he was still re-elected. Therefore, there is no racism" - perfect Danologic
 
Liberano said:
Did I say that dinkledork? I said they would shut up about it because you really can't come up with a bigger case that would show how tolerant America is.

And yeah if there's one person a racist wants to see elected why it's got to be a gay Jewish, black/hispanic!

I know you're pissed because of your spanking, but don't be just another in the Liberal mob.
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My statement is true.

You are also wrong that people would shut up about it.

Don't you have someone to stalk?
 
Jarod said:
If Obama is elected president it will show the down and out black people of this nation that racism is NOT as bad as many assume and that it is possable to do ANYTHING.

I know that Senator Obama is not a "typical" black American, he is not a decendant of slavery as many are... but it will still mean something.

Hopefully it would change the focus of affirmative action from being race based to economically based.

It would certantly give an argument to the anti-AA people that AA is no longer needed.
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One thing I'll say for Obama, is that he's a constitutional scholor. At Harvard U. He probably knows more about constitutional law than any president we've ever had.

And hopefully, with his background and knowledge of constitutional law, he'll show a modicum of respect for it, compared to BushCo.
 
there is massive racism in the system
for the republicans just think if you designed a system that had blacks performing equally to whites educationally and financially.
You talk about boom times. It should be done cause it's right, but be greedy and do it for gain if you like.
 
Liberano said:
Too late Powell and Rice already showed racism is not as bad as many assumed.

AA should go, it is outdated and getting a position in a job should not be based on race anymore than it should be based on poverty level, it should be based on ability.
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They also showed that partisanship in our govt is just as bad as many assumed.
 
Dungheap said:
Perhaps you were unaware that there were a bunch of southern black members of Congress in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War. Does that mean the post-Civil War sough was not racist?
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I was aware, were you aware that JC Watts won in an area that is not just a black area like the rest of where Southern black Dems are elected?
 
uscitizen said:
They also showed that partisanship in our govt is just as bad as many assumed.
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Certainly true of Rice, Powell well I think he's still more independent than most Libs now think, his autobiography that I read was really sincere, you can tell right away he is not that partisan.
 
Liberano said:
I was aware, were you aware that JC Watts won in an area that is not just a black area like the rest of where Southern black Dems are elected?
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My point is that pointing to electoral success as a barometer for the level of racism is brain-dead stupid. I'm talking drool cup mouth-breathing stupid. That is all.
 
Jarod said:
If Obama is elected president it will show the down and out black people of this nation that racism is NOT as bad as many assume and that it is possable to do ANYTHING.

I know that Senator Obama is not a "typical" black American, he is not a decendant of slavery as many are... but it will still mean something.

Hopefully it would change the focus of affirmative action from being race based to economically based.

It would certantly give an argument to the anti-AA people that AA is no longer needed.
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I disagree.

If Obama is elected it will demonstrate that an African-American can become president, but it will not demonstrate that racism is any less of a problem than statistics, study, documentation, and evidence demonstrates that it is.

Obama's election will not suggest that racism and disparity in the criminal justice system isn't as bad as we know it to be.

Obama's election would not demonstrate that the disparities in the workplace is not as bad as we know it to be.

Nor would his election do anything about how blacks are falsely portrayed in the media.

America is making progress in the fight against racism even without Obama being elected. But his election doesn't alter the fact that it is still too prevelent in American society today.
 
Jarod said:
I think we need programs for the poor to get a leg up. I dont think we need programs for black people to get a leg up anymore.
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We've never asked for or demanded a leg up.

We've demanded fairness and equality .. and that has not been achieved.

It is telling that it is whites, who have not been the target of dicrimination, who want to determine when enough "equality" has been achieved .. without the opinion of the very people who have endured hundreds and hundreds of years oppression..

A few years of AA and everything is supposed to be corrected .. even though white women have been the main beneficiary.

That's telling of the struggle we have always faced in America.
 
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