GOP chairman blocks quick passage of paid sick leave bill

[Guno צְבִי]

Cracka-billie Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) blocked an attempt by Senate Democrats to quickly pass legislation on Wednesday that would require employers to provide paid sick leave.


Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) created legislation that would require employers give workers 14 days of paid sick leave during public health emergencies. She tried to get unanimous consent on the legislation on Wednesday, which would have it bypass a vote, but Alexander said he could not support the bill.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...k-passage-of-paid-sick-leave-bill/ar-BB113QkV



yea keep his ignorant cracka-billies in the right to work for less state on his plantation

 

[Scut Farkus]

Cracka-billie Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) blocked an attempt by Senate Democrats to quickly pass legislation on Wednesday that would require employers to provide paid sick leave.


Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) created legislation that would require employers give workers 14 days of paid sick leave during public health emergencies. She tried to get unanimous consent on the legislation on Wednesday, which would have it bypass a vote, but Alexander said he could not support the bill.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...k-passage-of-paid-sick-leave-bill/ar-BB113QkV



yea keep his ignorant cracka-billies in the right to work for less state on his plantation

this isnt the time for ramming shit through. that's what your girl said, but I did it anyway. she thanked me.

 

[Phantasmal]

He’s retiring, he doesn’t care about people living paycheck to paycheck and lost wages.

 

[Scut Farkus]

He’s retiring, he doesn’t care about people living paycheck to paycheck and lost wages.

neither do globalists who love sending jobs overseas.

 

[Cypress]

Cracka-billie Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) blocked an attempt by Senate Democrats to quickly pass legislation on Wednesday that would require employers to provide paid sick leave.


Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) created legislation that would require employers give workers 14 days of paid sick leave during public health emergencies. She tried to get unanimous consent on the legislation on Wednesday, which would have it bypass a vote, but Alexander said he could not support the bill.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...k-passage-of-paid-sick-leave-bill/ar-BB113QkV



yea keep his ignorant cracka-billies in the right to work for less state on his plantation

I rank mandatory paid sick leave right up there with National Parks as leading indicators of our inexorable descent into a Norwegian Marxist-Socialist dystopian hellscape.

 

[Nordberg]

this isnt the time for ramming shit through. that's what your girl said, but I did it anyway. she thanked me.

This is exactly the time for that. We are in a pandemic.

 

[Scut Farkus]

This is exactly the time for that. We are in a pandemic.

fool. if it's really an emergency just pay it out of government funds.

 

[Tacomaman]

Republicans have NEVER been for working families.

 

[Jack]

I rank mandatory paid sick leave right up there with National Parks as leading indicators of our inexorable descent into a Norwegian Marxist-Socialist dystopian hellscape.

Cypress: "... as leading indicators of our inexorable descent into a Norwegian Marxist-Socialist dystopian hellscape."
Jack: Gees! That's a ... that's a lot for me to digest. "National Parks" ... "Norwegian Marxist-Socialist dystopian hellscape". Sweet Jesus Mother of God!

 

[CFM]

He’s retiring, he doesn’t care about people living paycheck to paycheck and lost wages.

Clearly those doing so don't care enough about themselves to do any better on their own behalf. Rather than work to better themselves, they beg for something else.

No employer should be required to give an employee sick leave.

If you care about those situations as much as you pretend to care, when someone is out of work sick and doesn't have sick leave, you personally offset their loss.

 

[CFM]

Republicans have NEVER been for working families.

This "handout" is nothing more than a left wing ploy to buy votes from those that think everyone owes them something.

 

[Scut Farkus]

Republicans have NEVER been for working families.

except when they favor keeping jobs here instead of sending them away like dems are.

 

[Saudade]

This sounds like a great idea until you realize that all it really means is that a lot of small businesses would just lay off workers.

Unfunded mandates rarely work. As AHZ mentioned, if you really want to give everyone paid sick leave, it would require having the government fund it.

 

[Trumpet]

This sounds like a great idea until you realize that all it really means is that a lot of small businesses would just lay off workers.

Unfunded mandates rarely work. As AHZ mentioned, if you really want to give everyone paid sick leave, it would require having the government fund it.

This song and dance is wearing thin.

 

[Saudade]

This song and dance is wearing thin.

How so? When people talk about things like paid sick leave and related topics like maternity leave, what they often fail to mention is that a lot of other countries fund said things at least partially via taxes and government. The burden doesn't typically fall completely on the employer.

There's a good reason for that. Admittedly, this is also why a lot of other countries have socialized medicine. Putting the burden of health benefits on the employer makes our market less competitive in many respects.

So yes, I actually do support socialized medicine (if the French design is used, not the UK or Canadian one), but by the same token, I don't support adding burdens to employers when we already have certain disadvantages in terms of being competitive with other nations in hiring.

 

[Trumpet]

How so? When people talk about things like paid sick leave and related topics like maternity leave, what they often fail to mention is that a lot of other countries fund said things at least partially via taxes and government. The burden doesn't typically fall completely on the employer.

There's a good reason for that. Admittedly, this is also why a lot of other countries have socialized medicine. Putting the burden of health benefits on the employer makes our market less competitive in many respects.

So yes, I actually do support socialized medicine (if the French design is used, not the UK or Canadian one), but by the same token, I don't support adding burdens to employers when we already have certain disadvantages in terms of being competitive with other nations in hiring.

Then why do we have wealth and income disparity in this country.

 

[Saudade]

Then why do we have wealth and income disparity in this country.

That's not really related to this discussion, but in general, our wealth and income disparity are connected to a number of things:

1) Historical gaps in wealth that fall along racial lines and were initially created by systemic oppression but are currently exacerbated by cultural issues within said communities.

2) Differences in ability among the general population.

3) Having a freer market than many other 1st World nations.


The freer the market is, the more economic mobility there is. However, economic mobility can be in either direction. You have the potential to rise in wealth through hard work and business acumen, but you also have the potential to face poverty from poor decisions or sometimes just bad luck.

A lot of other nations are less free but have more of a safety net. So the debate is always one of "what is the optimal balance of freedom and security?"

 

[Trumpet]

That's not really related to this discussion, but in general, our wealth and income disparity are connected to a number of things:

1) Historical gaps in wealth that fall along racial lines and were initially created by systemic oppression but are currently exacerbated by cultural issues within said communities.

2) Differences in ability among the general population.

3) Having a freer market than many other 1st World nations.


The freer the market is, the more economic mobility there is. However, economic mobility can be in either direction. You have the potential to rise in wealth through hard work and business acumen, but you also have the potential to face poverty from poor decisions or sometimes just bad luck.

A lot of other nations are less free but have more of a safety net. So the debate is always one of "what is the optimal balance of freedom and security?"

The point that I was getting to, is that many of these employers are making huge profits, and whining about paying some family leave.

 

[Loving91390]

Good way to get people fired ....

 

[Saudade]

The point that I was getting to, is that many of these employers are making huge profits, and whining about paying some family leave.

Depends on the business. The margin that most small businesses make is relatively small as well. Most big businesses provide paid sick leave and maternity leave.

So when bills like the one mentioned are proposed, they will mostly only affect small businesses.

The few big businesses that don't typically have paid sick leave and maternity leave are franchise structured, like restaurants. This is because they are more structurally similar to small businesses on the individual location level. Franchisees do most of the management, but they have a larger supply chain to work with.

We can debate the merits and flaws of the franchisee system, but in practical terms, they are small businesses despite being connected to a larger brand. Not surprisingly, they are similar in their benefits structure (or often lack thereof).