GOP Delegation meets privately with Bush; Tells him to stop lying about Iraq

[Cypress]

Bill Clinton had a scandal filled administration and now so has George W. Bush. Does that mean I should vote for Hillary because it's a Democrat's turn to have a scandal filled administration?

W. is not running again. The Republican nominees are not W. Because W. f*cked up doesn't mean I wouldn't vote someone like Rudy.

The Democrats ran Congress and they were corrupt. The Republicans took over and they were corrupt. If you're trying to tell the Democrats are all of a sudden not going to be corrupt again I'll listen to you but I won't believe you.

Hillary is also going to be the Democrat nominee. I will not vote for her. That's on principal. I'll vote Libertarian before I vote for her.

sorry, cawacko. Despite what Rush Limbaugh may have told you, the Clinton Admin was one of the most corruption free in modern times. Especially when compared to the number of convictions and indictments in the Bush junior, Poppy Bush, Reagan, and Nixon adminstrations.

Guilliani has been bush's lap dog. There's no use pretending that he can run away from his record of supporting the incompetent Bush's decisions and policies. Rudy got up at the 2004 GOP convention and told the nation that George Bush was almost the best thing since sliced bread. Bush is going to be hung around the neck of any of your leading candidates. They've all been bush poodles.

I don't like Hillary. I don't think she'll be the nominee. But, it doesn't pass the laugh test to suggest she can't do better than a Bush republican.

 

[Cypress]

I see three people here with the same ole same ole Cypress. If only the dems would put up someone who wasn't outright evil and does spells with Satin, then I could vote for a dem, because I think what the repubs have done to my country kind of stinks, and I am looking for an alternative.

Maybe when we don't have a country left, then they can vote for someone other than a republican.

HaHaHa

 

[cawacko]

Cawacko, there's no need to leave Tiana hanging. You're voting for the Republican in 08.

I like Obama. He's a real articulate guy whose initial rhetoric I support. Now I'm not all that familiar with his positions but if he comes out talking about freer markets, tough on terrorism etc. I'll listen.

I've heard him say government run universal health care which will not endure him to me. But at this point in the game I'm open. But yeah, for me to vote for a Democrat the guy will probably have to take some non-traditional Democratic positions.

 

[LadyT]

Bill Clinton had a scandal filled administration and now so has George W. Bush. Does that mean I should vote for Hillary because it's a Democrat's turn to have a scandal filled administration?

W. is not running again. The Republican nominees are not W. Because W. f*cked up doesn't mean I wouldn't vote someone like Rudy.

The Democrats ran Congress and they were corrupt. The Republicans took over and they were corrupt. If you're trying to tell the Democrats are all of a sudden not going to be corrupt again I'll listen to you but I won't believe you.

Hillary is also going to be the Democrat nominee. I will not vote for her. That's on principal. I'll vote Libertarian before I vote for her.

Yes. You are correct. Both men had scandals. One revolved around his personal life and his inability to keep it in his pants and the other involved the death, injury and destruction of thousands of lives. Bush's scandals (which I find hilarious that you'd even think to put them in the same category), have highlighted the republican's sheep like mentality and propensity to higher people that are completely unqualified for the positions they hold. Clinton's big scandal tells me I probably shouldn't marry him. They don't hold weight against one another. We're not $500 billion in the whole for a ridiculous and completely unavoidable war because of any democratic scandal.

But lets just say that there exists the slightest and almost inconcievable possibility that Hilary isn't the nominee and we nominate Obama. Would you vote for him?

 

[Cypress]

What do you mean Hillary is going to be the dem nominee? Should we call off the primaries?

I still have my heart set on Gore. So, just hold onto your horses there.

And Cawacko, we are talking real corruption here.

I'd have to google it, but I'm pretty sure that NO ONE in the Clinton adminstration was ever indicted for anything. Compare that to the current bush, his father, reagan, and Nixon.

Some people down in arkansas went to jail. But NO ONE in the clinton adminstration was ever indicted for anything. It may well have been the cleanest adminstration since Jimmy Carter's.

 

[LadyT]

I like Obama. He's a real articulate guy whose initial rhetoric I support. Now I'm not all that familiar with his positions but if he comes out talking about freer markets, tough on terrorism etc. I'll listen.

I've heard him say government run universal health care which will not endure him to me. But at this point in the game I'm open. But yeah, for me to vote for a Democrat the guy will probably have to take some non-traditional Democratic positions.

Oh skip my last post then.

 

[Cancel7]

I like Obama. He's a real articulate guy whose initial rhetoric I support. Now I'm not all that familiar with his positions but if he comes out talking about freer markets, tough on terrorism etc. I'll listen.

I've heard him say government run universal health care which will not endure him to me. But at this point in the game I'm open. But yeah, for me to vote for a Democrat the guy will probably have to take some non-traditional Democratic positions.

Oh , I heard Obama is going to run on a "vote for me, I'll go easy on the terrorists" platform. His campaign website has t-shirts with a picture of him and a bearded guy in a turbin, holding a rocket launcher, with their arms around each other, and underneath it says "have a coke and a smile". You should order one before they sell-out.

Cawacko, you are still against universal health care for God sakes? Did all the worrying I did about you not having any a while back, mean nothing?

 

[Cypress]

BTW: I'm glad you're hear Cawacko. I've missed your misguided and naive posts



just kidding.

 

[Cancel7]

I'd have to google it, but I'm pretty sure that NO ONE in the Clinton adminstration was ever indicted for anything. Compare that to the current bush, his father, reagan, and Nixon.

Some people down in arkansas went to jail. But NO ONE in the clinton adminstration was ever indicted for anything. It may well have been the cleanest adminstration since Jimmy Carter's.

The repubs made up these scandals, and really, they had to. Look at the Reagan adminstration and now the bush admistration. If they weren't inventing Clinton scandals, well then, people might get the idea that republican presidents run corrupt adminstrations. But this way, they can say "oh, they all do it".

 

[Cancel7]

BTW: I'm glad you're hear Cawacko. I've missed your misguided and naive posts



just kidding.

LOL Cawacko likes abuse.

I like having you here too though Cawacko.

 

[Cypress]

I like Obama. He's a real articulate guy whose initial rhetoric I support. Now I'm not all that familiar with his positions but if he comes out talking about freer markets, tough on terrorism etc. I'll listen.

I've heard him say government run universal health care which will not endure him to me. But at this point in the game I'm open. But yeah, for me to vote for a Democrat the guy will probably have to take some non-traditional Democratic positions.

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1)I've heard him say government run universal health care which will not endure him to me.

There's never been one national democrat in history who's advocated "government run" health care. Private doctors and private hospitals will always manage our health care. It's the funding mechanism that is the question. Management of your health will always be done by private doctors, clinics, and hospitals.

Now I'm not all that familiar with his positions but if he comes out talking about freer markets, tough on terrorism

I don't think it's possible to do a worse job on terror that Bush has. Can you point me the democrat that wants to be weak on terror? Personally, most of the ones Ive heard talk, sound like they are much, much smarter on terror than bush is. They're willing to use the full array of american power to address it: military, economic, diplomatic, law enforcement, intelligence, covert action.

bush just likes invading countries. Primarily countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 or anti-american terrorism. It's a wierd strategy. I've never gotten it.

 

[cawacko]

Yes. You are correct. Both men had scandals. One revolved around his personal life and his inability to keep it in his pants and the other involved the death, injury and destruction of thousands of lives. Bush's scandals (which I find hilarious that you'd even think to put them in the same category), have highlighted the republican's sheep like mentality and propensity to higher people that are completely unqualified for the positions they hold. Clinton's big scandal tells me I probably shouldn't marry him. They don't hold weight against one another. We're not $500 billion in the whole for a ridiculous and completely unavoidable war because of any democratic scandal.

But lets just say that there exists the slightest and almost inconcievable possibility that Hilary isn't the nominee and we nominate Obama. Would you vote for him?

I'm not here trying to rehash Bill Clinton's administration. But I wasn't even talking about the Monica thing when I was talking about scandal during his administation.

 

[Litmus]

Cawacko,

There comes a time when you have to stop worrying who's better on marginal tax rates, who's better on minimum wage, and who's better on privitization of toll roads.....and you have to ask yourself, who is actually really hurting the country? Who is destroying our hard-earned moral leadership, who has led us into a historic blunder in Iraq, and who is destroying american leadership and credibility in the world. IMO, these are historic times, and worrying about marginal tax rates, or privitizing toll roads is trivial. America's reputation, and long-term standing in the world are at stake.

The Bush republicans have done more damage to america than we can even possibly imagine. It will take years, maybe decades to repair. And as far as I can tell, McCain, Romney, and Guilliani have stood shoulder to shoulder with Bush on virutally all his decisions and policies. They can't hide and pretend they didn't now.

But how do dems planning on dealing with jihadis? the first candidate who says "Stop muslim immigration" gets my vote. I would vote for hillary if she said it, and I hate that obnoxious c_nt.

 

[cawacko]

Oh , I heard Obama is going to run on a "vote for me, I'll go easy on the terrorists" platform. His campaign website has t-shirts with a picture of him and a bearded guy in a turbin, holding a rocket launcher, with their arms around each other, and underneath it says "have a coke and a smile". You should order one before they sell-out.

Cawacko, you are still against universal health care for God sakes? Did all the worrying I did about you not having any a while back, mean nothing?

Of course I appreciate your worrying about me!!! And it's not like I am in a position to have much say in the debate but I do not support government run universal health care. I want people to be able to get the care they need but I believe there are better ways than a government run system.

 

[Jarod]

You didn't ask me but if I may answer how people can still support Republicans...

I view it like this. I have a set of political beliefs. And kind of like a dating site where they try to match people by personalities and stuff I've gone down the line and found Republicans generally support my positions more than Democrats, Greens and Libertarians (although the Libertarians come close).

Then of course there's the individual either running for or in office already. Do you like their character? their leadership abilities? etc.

For me personally, even though I have found a lot wrong with the Republican leadership what the Democrats offer is not enough to make me want to switch. Ths of course puts me in a position I think a lot of people find themselves and that is not being happy with the party they "support" but not wanting to support the other party.

If I felt that way about the Democratic nominee I would vote 3rd party. If I felt a Democrat was as bad as Bush is, I would not vote for him.

If a Democrat led us into this war I would not have supported his re-election, Ralph Nader would have gotten my vote!

 

[Jarod]

Bill Clinton had a scandal filled administration and now so has George W. Bush. Does that mean I should vote for Hillary because it's a Democrat's turn to have a scandal filled administration?

W. is not running again. The Republican nominees are not W. Because W. f*cked up doesn't mean I wouldn't vote someone like Rudy.

The Democrats ran Congress and they were corrupt. The Republicans took over and they were corrupt. If you're trying to tell the Democrats are all of a sudden not going to be corrupt again I'll listen to you but I won't believe you.

Hillary is also going to be the Democrat nominee. I will not vote for her. That's on principal. I'll vote Libertarian before I vote for her.

The "Scandals" of Bill CLinton's presidency were silly High School drama compared to the scandals of the Bush Administration. To compare the two is funny if it were not for the lives lost!

 

[Cancel7]

Of course I appreciate your worrying about me!!! And it's not like I am in a position to have much say in the debate but I do not support government run universal health care. I want people to be able to get the care they need but I believe there are better ways than a government run system.

But we aren't talking about Barbara Bush doing your exam. We already spend more than anybody on health care Cawacko, we just are not spending it the right way. We can do this, and you can still have your doctor.

Remember when I told you you can forget about privatized SS because I was on the march? Well, as soon as this war is over, you are going to be getting universal health care whether you like it or not, because I will be on the march again!

 

[Battleborne]

Hummm...

BREAKING NEWS.

Sort of like a Goldwater/Nixon 1974 moment:

NBC is just reporting that a GOP congressional delegation of 11 members, went to the White House, and met with Bush in his private quarters.

Evidently they were totally blunt with him, told him he has lost all credibility on iraq, that his adminstration now needs to be honest about iraq, and be candid.

They also told him that their constituents were prepared for defeat in iraq. I guess that means they think there's no point fighting and dying simply for a president's ego.

This is all well and good that these 11 brought to the attention of GW that their electorate was giving them feedback...however to go public and 'Kiss and Tell'...well thats just not right!

 

[Jarod]

It is a myth that you must vote either Republican or Democrat... There are other choices and America would be a healthier and more liberal nation if people did so more often.

 

[Cancel7]

This is all well and good that these 11 brought to the attention of GW that their electorate was giving them feedback...however to go public and 'Kiss and Tell'...well thats just not right!

Only complimentary things should be said about our Fuhrer publically...after all, we are at war!