Götterdämmerung -- The Twilight of the Gods

Bill said:
No, it's not.....

Imagine if CCP said sorry, we want to hold all are masks to insure our ppl are safe....... Sorry, no meds from China for a while, we are on holiday.........

When I went in & my Dr had on just a face shield, that was what they had left & he said that w/in about 21 days they should have all their needs done in house...

I didn't say anything, but was thinking, well that's great, as long as you can still buy most of the materials to make it......... Most of which are MADE IN CHINA..
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In the article in the OP, did you have a chance to read it? If so, did you see what the author wrote about the rubber shortage in WWII? There is a reason they call the people of my parents' and yours generation The Greatest.

"In 1940, with Europe already ablaze, the United States had a smaller army than either Portugal or Bulgaria. Within four years, 18 million men and women would serve in uniform, with millions more working double shifts in mines and factories that made America, as President Roosevelt promised, the arsenal of democracy.

When the Japanese within six weeks of Pearl Harbor took control of 90 percent of the world’s rubber supply, the U.S. dropped the speed limit to 35 mph to protect tires, and then, in three years, invented from scratch a synthetic-rubber industry that allowed Allied armies to roll over the Nazis. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years; the record was a ship built in four days, 15 hours and 29 minutes. A single American factory, Chrysler’s Detroit Arsenal, built more tanks than the whole of the Third Reich."

Can you even begin to imagine if this happened today... the reaction from the Reichtards? "Hell NO, I ain't given up my honkin' huge ass tires for my truck-which-I-don't-need-'cause-I-live-in-a-1800-sq-foot-house-in-the-burbs-and-don't-transport-nuthin-heavier-n-my-fat-wife-and-fat-kids! And I ain't drivin' no pussy 35 mph either! Try n stop me!"

Sigh.
 
Phantasmal said:
I wish her well.
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And same to every nurse, doctor, lab worker, patient care tech, educator, first responder, grocery store employee, trucker, delivery person, and all the rest of you who do what you can to keep us all going.

Weird thing about being retired, when you're supposed to be free to travel the world, have new experiences, meet new people. Can't do that now, at least as an American citizen. But at least as a retired person I don't have to earn my living being up close and personal with a deadly pathogen. Blessings of continued health upon those of you who still do.
 
Evmetro said:
It is dishonest to perpetuate the notion that Trump ever called the virus itself a hoax. You are trying to marginalize the fear mongering that was really what Trump was calling a hoax.
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Cypress didn't say that the virus itself is a hoax. He said that Trump said it was a "Democratic hoax", or more accurately, "Democrats' new hoax".

He was referring to two previous "hoaxes" like the Russian collusion and impeachment.
 
Evmetro said:
There was once a time when we all could get along, even if we were from opposite sides of the aisle. Political identifiers like Democrat, progressive, centrist, moderate, Republican, socialist, communist, commie, and such actually meant different things back in those days too. In our current political landscape, we only have two sides of a civil war, and everybody is either a lefty or a righty. I know what all the old political identifiers mean, but they are now meaningless in our polarized politics. It only takes a moment to see if a person is on the side of Marxism, violence, defunding police, BLM, violent protests accompanied by "peaceful" accomplices, fake news, welfare, and overblown pandemic panic to destroy the economy. When I hear a lefty who sounds like he is going to vote for this chaos, I know in an instant that he is effectively voting for ALL of it.
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Good dog. Trump is proud of you.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
And same to every nurse, doctor, lab worker, patient care tech, educator, first responder, grocery store employee, trucker, delivery person, and all the rest of you who do what you can to keep us all going.

Weird thing about being retired, when you're supposed to be free to travel the world, have new experiences, meet new people. Can't do that now, at least as an American citizen. But at least as a retired person I don't have to earn my living being up close and personal with a deadly pathogen. Blessings of continued health upon those of you who still do.
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I’m so grateful to be retired. I worry for my friends who still work.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I only know you through your words here. You only know me through my words. It is clear that you are a RWNJ, alt-right, simplistic puppet of the regime. In addition, you are a troll. Thanks though, for livening up this discussion thread.

PS -- The only war is in your head, where your masters installed it.
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Even back on goodreads, I made it clear that I represent an unusually broad media menu, so there is a lot about me that you do not know.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
In the article in the OP, did you have a chance to read it? If so, did you see what the author wrote about the rubber shortage in WWII? There is a reason they call the people of my parents' and yours generation The Greatest.

"In 1940, with Europe already ablaze, the United States had a smaller army than either Portugal or Bulgaria. Within four years, 18 million men and women would serve in uniform, with millions more working double shifts in mines and factories that made America, as President Roosevelt promised, the arsenal of democracy.

When the Japanese within six weeks of Pearl Harbor took control of 90 percent of the world’s rubber supply, the U.S. dropped the speed limit to 35 mph to protect tires, and then, in three years, invented from scratch a synthetic-rubber industry that allowed Allied armies to roll over the Nazis. At its peak, Henry Ford’s Willow Run Plant produced a B-24 Liberator every two hours, around the clock. Shipyards in Long Beach and Sausalito spat out Liberty ships at a rate of two a day for four years; the record was a ship built in four days, 15 hours and 29 minutes. A single American factory, Chrysler’s Detroit Arsenal, built more tanks than the whole of the Third Reich."

Can you even begin to imagine if this happened today... the reaction from the Reichtards? "Hell NO, I ain't given up my honkin' huge ass tires for my truck-which-I-don't-need-'cause-I-live-in-a-1800-sq-foot-house-in-the-burbs-and-don't-transport-nuthin-heavier-n-my-fat-wife-and-fat-kids! And I ain't drivin' no pussy 35 mph either! Try n stop me!"

Sigh.
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Yea, it would be hard to imagine most of these key board commandos sacrificing anything..
 
Evmetro said:
Even back on goodreads, I made it clear that I represent an unusually broad media menu, so there is a lot about me that you do not know.
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That's nice. The same is true of you not knowing anything about me. Or about anyone else on this forum. We only know each other by our words. What is your point, anyways?
 
TOW like the idea of Chinese shooting Howitzers at us as much as I like that how I know if they did, their cheap bullshit would blow up in their face.
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Bill said:
Yea, it would be hard to imagine most of these key board commandos sacrificing anything..
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Putting on a mask when you go inside a store is not a sacrifice. Not being able to spend Friday nights in a bar with 500 of your closest COVID friends is not a sacrifice. Not being able to go see a movie in a theater is not a sacrifice.

Not being able to be with your loved one in the hospital as he/she breathes their last... *that* is a sacrifice.
 
Matt Dillon said:
TOW like the idea of Chinese shooting Howitzers at us as much as I like that how I know if they did, their cheap bullshit would blow up in their face.
:laugh:
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Can someone bring the JPP Narcan over here and hold him down while I reverse whatever drug he ingested this time? Thanks.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
That's nice. The same is true of you not knowing anything about me. Or about anyone else on this forum. We only know each other by our words. What is your point, anyways?
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When all is said and done, there are just two sides of the war that makes up the current political landscape. Regardless off what a great person you may be, how beautiful the great white north is, or how smart you are, you are recognized politically as one of the two sides.
 
Evmetro said:
When all is said and done, there are just two sides of the war that makes up the current political landscape. Regardless off what a great person you may be, how beautiful the great white north is, or how smart you are, you are recognized politically as one of the two sides.
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If that was even remotely true, then I'm glad that I am on the side of progress, humanity, and ethics.
 
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Dutch Uncle said:
Which is why competition, often through capitalism but sometimes through governments, is good. Is there any doubt that the major nations are competing to be the first to provide a viable vaccine for COVID-19? So much competition, in fact, that both Russia and China tried to hack their way into medical centers researching it?

Competition can be very good. If we want to be #1 or stay #1, then, as you pointed out, have to earn that spot.
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Capitalism is a good thing and so is the kind of socialism that provides a safety net.

The measure of a nation is not how rich the richest can become.

It is how well the poorest are doing.
 
Hello Dutch Uncle,

Dutch Uncle said:
Trump should certainly be held accountable for the actions of the Executive branch as should those in the Legislative branch for America's failure to respond to a national crisis.
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Ultimately it is the voters who are responsible, and must pay the price of mistakes.
 
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