"Grrr I hate it so much when loans are forgiven"

Flash said:
You have no clue how government finances the debt.
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You seem to be the one confused here, Flash, not me.

"Finances the debt"? What are you talking about? Are you talking about making interest payments? We always make those no matter what. Defaulting on them would be the result of a choice, not the result of a circumstance.

The size of our debt has no impact on making interest payments; like, there is no magic number we hit with the debt that will suddenly trigger a default.

The only way that happens is through an active choice not to pay the interest, and it's almost all been Republicans who make those threats because they want to get rid of the programs they are ideologically opposed to, but lack the courage, will, and support to repeal through conventional legislation.
 
LV426 said:
That's a fucking hilarious image...Flash walking up to the Smithsonian in his sweatervest and colostomy bag demanding to repossess the lunar lander on behalf of the debt holders, who are all of us.
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LV426 said:
Completely fucking wrong.

This is what happens when you don't do the research because you're a lazy fucking asshole.

Foreign and international investors hold total about $7T of the debt...and of that $7T, foreign governments like China account for about $2.5T total, the rest are private investors who bought US bonds.

So it's not 34% of the debt, it's about 23%, and most of that is held by private investors, not foreign governments.

Good luck trying to repossess anything in the US as a foreign investor if we defaulted on our debt, which can only happen by choice not circumstance.
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LV426 said:
So then you obviously support lifting the cap on taxable SS income, which would extend the solvency of the program by decades?

Social Security: Raising or Eliminating the Taxable Earnings Base
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Raising or eliminating the taxable earnings base while maintaining the current benefit structure, where benefits are calculated on the full contribution base, would lead to higher monthly Social Security checks for individuals who earned more than the current taxable earnings base during their careers. These higher benefit payments would lead to greater program outlays, although these expenditures would be more than offset by greater tax revenues.
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https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/RL32896.pdf

Who knew that raising taxes could make a program solvent? Do moderates not know that?
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LV426 said:
You seem to be the one confused here, Flash, not me.

"Finances the debt"? What are you talking about? Are you talking about making interest payments? We always make those no matter what. Defaulting on them would be the result of a choice, not the result of a circumstance.

The size of our debt has no impact on making interest payments; like, there is no magic number we hit with the debt that will suddenly trigger a default.

The only way that happens is through an active choice not to pay the interest, and it's almost all been Republicans who make those threats because they want to get rid of the programs they are ideologically opposed to, but lack the courage, will, and support to repel through conventional legislation.
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You're a cretinous piece of white dogshit. And dumb as fuck, too.
 
Flash said:
Just like I was not outmatched when you claimed Trump would cancel the election
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I can tell when I really get under your skin because you always go back to this lie...a lie that has been debunked over and over but for some reason you are addicted to it like a crackhead.

What I said was that Trump would TRY to cancel the election...and I provided you with the actual posts of mine that said that. Posts that you didn't quote and we all know why...because my posts didn't say what you are claiming they said. And you know they didn't say that. And everyone knows they didn't say that because I linked to those posts when you didn't. So that would make you a liar, wouldn't it? You lied about what I said, provided no evidence to support your claim, and then pretended as if you hadn't already been dragged for getting it completely fucking wrong.

You were compelled to drop the "try" because you are a desperate and pathetic person who measures his worth against other people because you are totally consumed by your ego.

What a little fucking bitch.

Then, as that thread continued, you asked me if I thought he would succeed, and I said yes. That is totally different than me saying he would TRY to cancel the election.

That's your sloppiness rearing its ugly, reactionary head as it always does whenever you lose an argument.
 
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LV426 said:
I can tell when I really get under your skin because you always go back to this lie...a lie that has been debunked over and over but for some reason you are addicted to it like a crackhead.

What I said was that Trump would TRY to cancel the election...and I provided you with the actual posts of mine that said that.

You were compelled to drop the "try" because you are a desperate and pathetic person who measures his worth against other people because you are totally consumed by your ego.

What a little fucking bitch.

Then, as that thread continued, you asked me if I thought he would succeed, and I said yes. That is totally different than me saying he would TRY to cancel the election.

That's your sloppiness rearing its ugly, reactionary head as it always does whenever you lose an argument.
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Takes one to know one, huh, little bitch?
 
Matt Dillon said:
You're a cretinous piece of white dogshit. And dumb as fuck, too.
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Fucking pussy.

Come on, man...let's do this already.

Put your fucking money where your fat mouth is and we can settle this for good.

I think you're too much of a fucking pussy to be confronted, Little Bitchass.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Takes one to know one, huh, little bitch?
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You would know since you run your fat mouth all the time here and the moment someone calls you out on it, suddenly you turn into a coward.

Not hard to see why...even you know that if we were to meet, I'd beat the snot out of you.

I know you're a pussy because you ran your fat mouth about a stolen election for two months but then hid out here on JPP the one day you could have done something about it. Just like a little bitch.
 
LV426 said:
You would know since you run your fat mouth all the time here and the moment someone calls you out on it, suddenly you turn into a coward.

Not hard to see why...even you know that if we were to meet, I'd beat the snot out of you.

I know you're a pussy because you ran your fat mouth about a stolen election for two months but then hid out here on JPP the one day you could have done something about it. Just like a little bitch.
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Come on down, motherfucker! I'll slap your fuckass right to the ground.

What was done wasn't the right thing to do and I knew it. That doesn't mean I was scared to do anything, chump.

About all I'm scared of is metal bracelets and a ride to the hoosegow for fucking a dipshit like you up. Somehow they'd up the charge even though I used no weapons.

I don't have good luck with things like that; Like when I got arrested for beating the 2 assholes, 2 different neighbor families with 2-3 people apiece were right there telling the cops they tried to jump me. The cops wanted to be dicks and I went to jail. The dudes were healthily banged up. :laugh: Oh the best damage couldn't even be seen! :laugh:

If you come down here, I'm gonna box your ears for fun, motherfucker. I'm going to stun you, and then box your ears, or knock you out, and then box your ears, or yoke you out, and then box your ears. Prepare for pain, bitch!
 
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Matt Dillon said:
Come on down, motherfucker! I'll slap your fuckass right to the ground.

What was done wasn't the right thing to do and I knew it. That doesn't mean I was scared to do anything, chump.
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LMAO!

What the fuck are you gonna do to me, when you were too fucking scared to go to DC despite a thousand Nazis being there to protect you?

What a cuck.
 
you mean the loans that allowed business to not fire everyone when they were forced to close down by the fascist democrats?

talk about your apples and oranges
 
LV426 said:
The Trump Treasury Department and the SBA did the lending and administration.

But you wouldn't know that because you don't know anything about PPP, and you only started criticizing it on this thread, not at any point in the 2 years prior.
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demmycrat program.......you cannot deny the facts.......
 
LV426 said:
LMAO!

What the fuck are you gonna do to me, when you were too fucking scared to go to DC despite a thousand Nazis being there to protect you?

What a cuck.
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I'm gonna box your ears and introduce you to serious pain. You have no clue as to what that is and my hands are ready!
 
LV426 said:
Post-WWI Germany suffered economic consequences because of the war they lost.

Reasonable people can debate if those consequences were appropriate or heavy-handed, but it is not reasonable to pin the fall of Weimar on government spending, when it had economic sanctions placed on it by the allies who won the war.

I didn't think it was possible for you to lower my opinion of your abilities any further, but you did it somehow.
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Tell that to the survivors of WWI in Germany.
 
LV426 said:
Completely fucking wrong.

This is what happens when you don't do the research because you're a lazy fucking asshole.

Foreign and international investors hold total about $7T of the debt...and of that $7T, foreign governments like China account for about $2.5T total, the rest are private investors who bought US bonds.

So it's not 34% of the debt, it's about 23%, and most of that is held by private investors, not foreign governments.

Good luck trying to repossess anything in the US as a foreign investor if we defaulted on our debt, which can only happen by choice not circumstance.
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You are confusing total debt with public debt.

Silly boy, we don't repossess anything from government. The people with treasury securities in their IRA, pension, Social Security Trust fund, etc. just have to eat the trillions they lost when government defaulted on their bond payments.

Then, you will want the government to spend more money to help these people who lost their retirement but nobody will buy our debt.
 
LV426 said:
That is literally what sunsetting means, Flash.
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You need to read about sunsetting before making such claims. Sunset laws means the program comes up for review every X number of years. The program is reviewed and renewed or not renewed. It is largely a waste of time because they are almost always renewed with little effort given to review because everybody knows the legislators are going to renew the program, especially a major program like Social Security which any idiot knows they are not going to end.

Do a little research before starting "the sky is falling" routine.
 
LV426 said:
I can tell when I really get under your skin because you always go back to this lie...a lie that has been debunked over and over but for some reason you are addicted to it like a crackhead.

What I said was that Trump would TRY to cancel the election...and I provided you with the actual posts of mine that said that. Posts that you didn't quote and we all know why...because my posts didn't say what you are claiming they said. And you know they didn't say that. And everyone knows they didn't say that because I linked to those posts when you didn't. So that would make you a liar, wouldn't it? You lied about what I said, provided no evidence to support your claim, and then pretended as if you hadn't already been dragged for getting it completely fucking wrong.

You were compelled to drop the "try" because you are a desperate and pathetic person who measures his worth against other people because you are totally consumed by your ego.

What a little fucking bitch.

Then, as that thread continued, you asked me if I thought he would succeed, and I said yes. That is totally different than me saying he would TRY to cancel the election.

That's your sloppiness rearing its ugly, reactionary head as it always does whenever you lose an argument.
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LV426 A Phony and a Liar

LV426 claimed Trump was going to cancel the 2020 election and I told him it would not happen. Now, he claims he only said Trump would "try" to cancel the election and provided the actual post to prove it. Yet, let's see what LV426 actually said. These are the things he said Trump/Republicans would do in three steps.

"Step 1: Delay or cancel primaries (already happened)
Step 2: Oppose mail-in balloting by destroying the post office (already happening)
Step 3: Cancel the general election out of concerns for "safety"; concerns that could have been addressed, if not for Step #2."

Clearly, he did say he would "cancel" the election. There is no "try" in that sentence.

Worse, he claimed I was wrong because NY cancelled the primary and he claimed that was proof they would cancel the primaries. In reality, several states have provisions to cancel presidential (or other) primaries when there are no opponents.

The NY primary was cancelled because of lack of opponents, not because Trump canceled the primary because of LV426's three part plan. He actually admitted I was right about this.

The guy hates to be wrong and wants to prove he knows more than others but always fails. Then, he lies (saying I said my wife was Asian), makes up stories to argue against, or finds irrelevant trivia to argue about. His posts are 75% personal insult and pop psychology. If he makes a post in response to one of mine and I respond back, the next time I look I've got 10 responses from him. Each one gets more bitter, irrational, and full of hate.


So, of course, Flash was wrong...
New York Becomes First State To Outright Cancel Presidential Primary
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/n...lation-sanders

NY won't be the last either. This is what Trump and the GOP have been dreaming of since this COVID outbreak started. Any excuse they can use to cancel elections, they will use it.

Step 1: Delay or cancel primaries (already happened)
Step 2: Oppose mail-in balloting by destroying the post office (already happening)
Step 3: Cancel the general election out of concerns for "safety"; concerns that could have been addressed, if not for Step #2.
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Matt Dillon said:
I'm gonna box your ears and introduce you to serious pain. You have no clue as to what that is and my hands are ready!
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Yak yak yak...until you're willing to meet in public and have me beat the living shit out of you and then fuck your wife in the ass while you watch from the corner jerking off, then I'll entertain the bullshit you spew forth here you goddamned motherfucking pussy of all pussies.
 
LV426 said:
Yak yak yak...until you're willing to meet in public and have me beat the living shit out of you and then fuck your wife in the ass while you watch from the corner jerking off, then I'll entertain the bullshit you spew forth here you goddamned motherfucking pussy of all pussies.
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LOL! More tough speak from another coward :laugh:
 
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