Have We Had Enough of the Imperial Presidency Yet?

Obama's imperialism?

Do explain yourself- if you dare try! We're listening!

"We have to pass it to find out what's in it" the Obamacare stool sample. Putting coal out of business. strangling the economy with tons of regulations written by unelected bureaucrats, cutting an unconstitutional deal with the likes of terrorist Iran that was never consented to by the Senate. establishing DOCA with a stroke of the pen that even he admitted was unconstitutional.
 
"We have to pass it to find out what's in it" the Obamacare stool sample. Putting coal out of business. strangling the economy with tons of regulations written by unelected bureaucrats, cutting an unconstitutional deal with the likes of terrorist Iran that was never consented to by the Senate. establishing DOCA with a stroke of the pen that even he admitted was unconstitutional.


You mean to tell me that your STILL don't know anything about coal? So give Trump credit.. If he lies and brags it MUST be true.

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"We have to pass it to find out what's in it" the Obamacare stool sample. Putting coal out of business. strangling the economy with tons of regulations written by unelected bureaucrats, cutting an unconstitutional deal with the likes of terrorist Iran that was never consented to by the Senate. establishing DOCA with a stroke of the pen that even he admitted was unconstitutional.

Nancy said, “We have to pass the bill,so that you can find out what is in it — away from the fog of the controversy.”

Conservatives — abetted by dozens of political journalists who should have known better — immediately seized on a truncated version of the quote. Pelosi was really expressing her confidence in the underlying merits of the bill, but it became instead a shorthand for the allegedly dodgy process through which Obamacare was passed.

But Pelosi never said the bill was enacted in secret or under cover of night, because it wasn’t. She said it was enacted in a fog of controversy. The controversy, naturally enough, focused on the most contentious aspects of the bill rather than on the most broadly popular. Much of it was about misunderstandings or misconceptions — claims that the bill contained death panels or did nothing to restrain health care costs — rather than on the Affordable Care Act’s concrete benefits.

Obama did nothing to hurt the Coal Industry. The Coal Industry is dying a natural death. More Coal Operations have shut down under the first 2 years of Donald Trump's Administration, than did under the entire 8 years of Obama's Administration- even after Donald Trump removed most Coal Regulations put in place by several generations of presidents.

Congressional responsibility in the Iran deal

Much of the responsibility for U.S. foreign policy falls under the authority of the executive branch. Congress does play a significant role, however, in foreign trade and commerce, immigration, foreign aid, the defense budget and any declarations of war. The Senate authorizes treaties and confirms the president’s cabinet nominees.

To avoid needing Senate approval for an agreement with a foreign power, the president can simply avoid calling the agreement a treaty. The Obama administration said the Iran deal was neither a treaty nor an executive agreement. Instead, the State Department said in a letter that the deal "reflects political commitments" between the seven nations involved.

When the president negotiates a deal that is not deemed a treaty, Congress -- if it wants a say on the deal -- must convince the president to give the legislative branch the power to approve or block the final deal.

That’s exactly what Congress did when it passed the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act of 2015, a bill that had bipartisan support and allowed Congress the right to review any agreement reached in the negotiations. Obama initially threatened to veto the bill but did not.

The regulations Obama approved of were put in place to prevent the kinds of problems that led to the Financial crisis that Obama Inherited as he became president.

The DACA program would have shielded as many as five million undocumented immigrants from deportation and allowed them to legally work in the United States.

The 4-4 tie, which left in place an appeals court ruling blocking the plan, amplified the contentious election-year debate over the nation’s immigration policy and presidential power.

When the Supreme Court agreed to hear the case in January, it seemed poised to issue a major ruling on presidential power. That did not materialize, but the court’s action, which established no precedent and included no reasoning, was nonetheless perhaps its most important statement this term. The decision was just nine words long: “The judgment is affirmed by an equally divided court.”
 
I don't remember a single D upset over Mr. "I have a pen and a phone" Obama, the Imperial President.

You think that is the same as King Daffy is doing? That explains a lot. Of course, the whataboutsomebody else is what reds rely on. Somebody, sometime did something different, but a little alike, so that is precedence for wat Trump does. It is just not the same.
 
You think that is the same as King Daffy is doing? That explains a lot. Of course, the whataboutsomebody else is what reds rely on. Somebody, sometime did something different, but a little alike, so that is precedence for wat Trump does. It is just not the same.

I think that for most on this board, those who think the Jersey worn by their "team" is the most important item when voting, that it is a matter of perspective. That often they'll overlook what they think is overreach when done by the "other side" when it is done by their own team thinking it is "reasonable action" when those jerks just keep saying "no".

If Trump declares a "national emergency" at the border to build his barrier on the 200 or so miles left where it will be effective, I will tell people I think it is overreach even though he pretends to wear the same jersey as my "team"... I do not believe that most here would if somebody wearing their jersey overreaches.
 
I think that for most on this board, those who think the Jersey worn by their "team" is the most important item when voting, that it is a matter of perspective. That often they'll overlook what they think is overreach when done by the "other side" when it is done by their own team thinking it is "reasonable action" when those jerks just keep saying "no".

If Trump declares a "national emergency" at the border to build his barrier on the 200 or so miles left where it will be effective, I will tell people I think it is overreach even though he pretends to wear the same jersey as my "team"... I do not believe that most here would if somebody wearing their jersey overreaches.

That 6 billion is a down payment on a far more expensive wall. When the Dems offered to provide 20 billion for the wall for DACA. that was not all the wall cost. But Trump turned it down.,Real estimates are in 70 billion range, not counting the intermitable court costs over eminent domain. Stories today about many tunnels being discovered. The wall does not work and it is only dealing with a small part of drug and immigrant crossing.
 
You mean to tell me that your STILL don't know anything about coal? So give Trump credit.. If he lies and brags it MUST be true.

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Your chart is ancient history! Post the new one in 2024 after Trump, and notice the rebound.
 
Nancy said, “We have to pass the bill,so that you can find out what is in it — away from the fog of the controversy.”

Conservatives — abetted by dozens of political journalists who should have known better — immediately seized on a truncated version of the quote.

Whatever version you like it's still an admission that they passed it without reading it. Are you saying the swamp rats all read every page of that foot high stack of steaming shit before they voted for it?
 
That 6 billion is a down payment on a far more expensive wall. When the Dems offered to provide 20 billion for the wall for DACA. that was not all the wall cost. But Trump turned it down.,Real estimates are in 70 billion range, not counting the intermitable court costs over eminent domain. Stories today about many tunnels being discovered. The wall does not work and it is only dealing with a small part of drug and immigrant crossing.

When in hell did Democrats become fiscal conservatives worried about what anything COST?????? Oh! I know, just as soon as Trump beat the shit out of the felon Hillary Clinton, huh?
 
Just more ancient history. Again, post the new one in 2024 after Trump and take notice of the recovery!!!!!

You can't possibly be that ignorant. Do you also believe in fairy tales ? Trump will also spin straw into gold.
 
When in hell did Democrats become fiscal conservatives worried about what anything COST?????? Oh! I know, just as soon as Trump beat the shit out of the felon Hillary Clinton, huh?

You are a right-wing meme swallower. The fact is the Repugs have claimed fiscal conservatism and then cranked the dept up over and over. However, in their case it is the plan. The old starve the government that reds since Reagan have ben working for. Crank the debt up and then end all government programs and cut agencies. Fuck the poor and the middle class. The Repugs are the ones who spend.
 
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"We have to pass it to find out what's in it" the Obamacare stool sample. Putting coal out of business. strangling the economy with tons of regulations written by unelected bureaucrats, cutting an unconstitutional deal with the likes of terrorist Iran that was never consented to by the Senate. establishing DOCA with a stroke of the pen that even he admitted was unconstitutional.

The usual rightie ignorance and delusion. Obama didn't write obamaCare. Coal is being driven out of business by the market. If those regulations were "strangling the economy", then why was that economy so healthy? Trump keeps appointing incompetent industry stooges whose only goal is removing all protections, putting profits before people. A "deal" is not a treaty. Your ignorance is boundless.

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The usual rightie ignorance and delusion. Obama didn't write obamaCare. Coal is being driven out of business by the market. If those regulations were "strangling the economy", then why was that economy so healthy? Trump keeps appointing incompetent industry stooges whose only goal is removing all protections, putting profits before people. A "deal" is not a treaty. Your ignorance is boundless.

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Great post.
 
You can't possibly be that ignorant. Do you also believe in fairy tales ? Trump will also spin straw into gold.

90% of what Trump is doing is cool with me! I only have a few issues with him. The military industrial complex spending racket, His signing of that outrageous debt bloated budget the Congress passed and his appointments of Status-Quo Swamp rats for his cabinet. I'm disappointed in his latest pick for AG. William Barr is a Mueller pal, a Rod Rosenstein buddy and a Bush generation never Trumper. I have little to no faith he'll clean the swamp rats out of the DOJ and FBI and indict and prosecute the bastards.
 
The usual rightie ignorance and delusion. Obama didn't write obamaCare.

It was only his signature achievement! No freaking President writes any legislation friend. Congress provides and passes all legislation. The ACA was an Obama request and promotion and Obama owns it. Freaking BIG insurance companies lobbyist wrote the damned thing just like lobbyist write most legislation that comes out of Washington.

Coal is being driven out of business by the market.

Coal was put out of business by leftist environmentalist politicians that coal country folks voted for their whole existence till Trump. There's plenty of value left in industrial coal as America's most plentiful and reliable energy source and it has a tremendous value as an American export. Clean coal technology exist. When properly installed it's as clean an energy as Oil and even more available.

If those regulations were "strangling the economy", then why was that economy so healthy?

What's your definition of "healthy?" A 2% GDP? Millions on food stamps? Coal country out of business, impoverished and addicted to pain killers?

Trump keeps appointing incompetent industry stooges whose only goal is removing all protections, putting profits before people. A "deal" is not a treaty. Your ignorance is boundless.

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Trump has created a 3+% average GDP, the lowest unemployment in decades and the lowest unemployment for minority races in history. Trump has shamed the cheap NATO bastards into ponying up their fair share of NATO dues. Trump has been tougher on Russia, Syria and Iran than any President in our history. Trump seriously is striving to secure our southern border and shame our swamp rat Congress into legislating sane immigration policy. Trump has put American's tax dollars back into their pockets. Trump's policies have brought back and continue to bring back jobs to America. Trump has trashed Obama's overreaching idiotic regulations written by unelected bureaucrats and thereby stimulated a powerful roaring economy. If all of that is breaking your heart friend, your heart is in the wrong place.
 
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