Hawaii's New Governor Takes Up the Fight Against Birthers

Yurt said:
o i c, so you're not actually a mormon just like i am not actually a birther

thanks for clearing that up beefy!
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I became one this afternoon in order to make your post logical. I find it quite comical that your claiming not to be a birther, and yet you're still running around demanding "proof" that Obama was born in Hawaii - as if it hasn't already been provided.

Don't you have bigger fish to fry?
 
Yurt said:
that you can produce a copy of the original

why is it you continually ignore the fact that right on the electronic version it states PRIMA FACIE EVIDENCE
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What does FRE 1005 say? That a copy is just as good. And what does Hawaii law say?

The department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age, usage, or otherwise are in such condition that they can no longer be conveniently consulted or used without danger of serious injury or destruction thereof, and to certify to the correctness of such copies. The typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies shall be competent evidence in all courts of the State with like force and effect as the original
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There is no best evidence rule issue here, jackass, not only because the dispute concerns whether Obama was born in Hawaii, not the contents of his birth certificate, but also because we are dealing here with public records to which different rules apply.
 
NigelTufnel said:
What does FRE 1005 say? That a copy is just as good. And what does Hawaii law say?




There is no best evidence rule issue here, jackass, not only because the dispute concerns whether Obama was born in Hawaii, not the contents of his birth certificate, but also because we are dealing here with public records to which different rules apply.
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you are really an idiot nigel....the issue is the contents of the writing, that is why people want to see the original or a copy thereof...

now, your quote of hawaii law shows just what a moron you are:

The department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age, usage, or otherwise are in such condition that they can no longer be conveniently consulted or used without danger of serious injury or destruction thereof, and to certify to the correctness of such copies. The typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies shall be competent evidence in all courts of the State with like force and effect as the original
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obama's b/c is not in such a condition, in fact, the registrar's office claims to have seen the original and said it exists....however, since it does exist and is not in any danger, that is the best evidence and shall be used according to FRE... to prove the contents of the writing

seriously, you're just making a huge ass out yourself tonight
 
Beefy said:
I became one this afternoon in order to make your post logical. I find it quite comical that your claiming not to be a birther, and yet you're still running around demanding "proof" that Obama was born in Hawaii - as if it hasn't already been provided.

Don't you have bigger fish to fry?
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show one post where i am "demanding proof"

if you don't, then admit i'm not a birther and send me some macadamia nuts from hawaii
 
Yurt said:
you are really an idiot nigel....the issue is the contents of the writing, that is why people want to see the original or a copy thereof...

now, your quote of hawaii law shows just what a moron you are:



obama's b/c is not in such a condition, in fact, the registrar's office claims to have seen the original and said it exists....however, since it does exist and is not in any danger, that is the best evidence and shall be used according to FRE... to prove the contents of the writing

seriously, you're just making a huge ass out yourself tonight
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Birther. LOL and to deny it? Even bigger LOL!
 
Beefy said:
Birther. LOL and to deny it? Even bigger LOL!
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post 124....put up or .....

and i guess you're an idiot like onceler and believe that my repeated comments that obama was in fact born in hawaii and is in fact eligible makes me a birther....i'm truly saddened you've lowered yourself to onceler's level

:(
 
Yurt said:
show one post where i am "demanding proof"

if you don't, then admit i'm not a birther and send me some macadamia nuts from hawaii
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So angrily running around demanding the Obama provide his birth certificate to shut you birthers up is not "demanding proof".

Is this a comedy routine? Be honest now.
 
And pm me your address for the nuts. I can then direct you to your local super market where they certainly sell them.
 
Beefy said:
So angrily running around demanding the Obama provide his birth certificate to shut you birthers up is not "demanding proof".

Is this a comedy routine? Be honest now.
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i am being honest...you can't find one single post where i have demanded obama provide his b/c....

i have never demanded it, and have from day one, even before he produced his electronic copy, said this was a nothing issue and that he is eligible...

now man up and either find the post or admit you're lying your ass off
 
Yurt said:
you are really an idiot nigel....the issue is the contents of the writing, that is why people want to see the original or a copy thereof...
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I thought the issue was whether Obama was born in Hawaii. So you are all in agreement that he was born in Hawaii and just want to see his birth certificate? For what purpose?


Yurt said:
now, your quote of hawaii law shows just what a moron you are:

obama's b/c is not in such a condition, in fact, the registrar's office claims to have seen the original and said it exists....however, since it does exist and is not in any danger, that is the best evidence and shall be used according to FRE... to prove the contents of the writing

seriously, you're just making a huge ass out yourself tonight
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Apparently, you've seen the original given that you can vouch for it's condition and can state so matter-of-factly that it does not meet any of the statutory criteria.

And according to FRE 1005, the document released is 100% perfect.

I also like how you conveniently dropped the "copy of the original" bullshit. Hilarious.
 
QUOTE=NigelTufnel;749579]I thought the issue was whether Obama was born in Hawaii. So you are all in agreement that he was born in Hawaii and just want to see his birth certificate? For what purpose?
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i don't care to see it....stop the bullshit nigel


Apparently, you've seen the original given that you can vouch for it's condition and can state so matter-of-factly that it does not meet any of the statutory criteria.

And according to FRE 1005, the document released is 100% perfect.

I also like how you conveniently dropped the "copy of the original" bullshit. Hilarious.
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you're drunk tonight, i never dropped the copy issue....seriously, whats in the water at jpp tonight....first beefy, now you
 
One side keeps accusing the other side of fishing for something and the other side makes an accusation that something must be being hidden.

I was just wondering what those who are against Obama releasing his birth certificate are worried what might be revealed, if is was?
 
Beefy said:
1/100

But if you really want some, I'll send some out. I'll even put a nice glaze on 'em.
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a simple i was wrong yurt, i'm sorry i called you a birther...

Yurt said:
i believe obama is a citizen and qualified,


however, the left repeatedly makes false claims regarding what obama has shown...and then they mock those who don't believe obama eligible for they're lack of the truth or facts. that only fuels the conspiracy....why is the left producing lies they wonder....a lefty in this very thread after being shown that certification is not the certificate used the "nitpicky" defense and the retard claim....and they wonder why people believe obama and the left is hiding somethign

you get the picture
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that was over a year and is still true....yep....sure makes me a birther...
 
Yurt said:
i don't care to see it....stop the bullshit nigel
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Whatever, guy. Answer the question: does the issue concern whether Obama was born in Hawaii or the contents of his birth certificate?

Yurt said:
you're drunk tonight, i never dropped the copy issue....seriously, whats in the water at jpp tonight....first beefy, now you
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I've not begun to defile myself. The post I quoted demanded the original whereas not too long ago you claimed a copy of the original was the "best evidence." I too that to mean that you conceded that a copy of something is not the best evidence of anything, but apparently you insist on remaiming an ignorant boob.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
One side keeps accusing the other side of fishing for something and the other side makes an accusation that something must be being hidden.

I was just wondering what those who are against Obama releasing his birth certificate are worried what might be revealed, if is was?
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Its been revealed. That homey was born here in '61. Its just silly that you birthers keep questioning it.

Here's the birth announcement in the paper:

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Jeebus. The guy is president, and he was born here. There's a lot of reasons to dislike him, but this ain't one of them.

You birthers....
 
Beefy said:
Its been revealed. That homey was born here in '61. Its just silly that you birthers keep questioning it.

Here's the birth announcement in the paper:

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Jeebus. The guy is president, and he was born here. There's a lot of reasons to dislike him, but this ain't one of them.

You birthers....
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If you're insinuating that I'm a "birther", you seriously need to reconsider your cognitive skills.
I don't care on way, or the other; but I was wondering why the Obamamites are rallied so much against it.
 
Yurt said:
a simple i was wrong yurt, i'm sorry i called you a birther...
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Once you stop claiming the Obama is a citizen of kenya, even by proxy, I'll send you some nuts from Hilo Hatties. Until then, no nuts for you.
 
UOTE=NigelTufnel;749588]Whatever, guy. Answer the question: does the issue concern whether Obama was born in Hawaii or the contents of his birth certificate?
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the contents moron, i've answered this already....do keep up, you're boring me


I've not begun to defile myself. The post I quoted demanded the original whereas not too long ago you claimed a copy of the original was the "best evidence." I too that to mean that you conceded that a copy of something is not the best evidence of anything, but apparently you insist on remaiming an ignorant boob.
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you're an idiot...i said according to the FRE...the original is the best, if the state doesn't want to let out a copy, they can PHOTOGRAPH the original and that is better evidence than the electronic copy....

a copy of the original is the best evidence here, as i doubt hawaii would let the original out of the office...thus, the FRE is met

you're just plain making a fool out of yourself tonight and have to completely distort what i said in order to "try" and not drown

i notice you once again IGNORE the PRIMA FACIE issue and i noticed you failed to admit you fucked up by misquoting the hawaii law

like i said, you're boring me, have a good night arguing nonsense and distorting my words
 
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