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ThatOwlWoman said:
Scott said:
Well, he hasn't denied what you've said, so I'll keep it in mind as a possibility. Since I never knew YaYa/Yurt, I've only known him as goat. I've agreed with goat on some things, disagreed with him on others. I think the same is true for most if not all of the posters in this forum. As to goat personally, he seems to refrain from insulting too much, which I definitely consider to be a plus.
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You'll learn otherwise if you stick around. lol
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You may well be right. I tend to focus on goat's responses to my own posts- goat has generally been pretty civilized with -me-, but I haven't seen how he (or anyone really) responds to others so much. And as mentioned, he did accuse me of being a sock, right after I disagreed with him in regards to phantasmal, so there's that too.
 
Tobytone said:
Like I said, your positions scream Democrat
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I certainly share some positions with many democrats- my views on immigration for instance. Others I share with those more on the right, such as the right to bear arms and the right to choose whether to be vaccinated. As to the decratic party establishment, I think I've made it clear that I'm not for them. I -do- like some positions of AOC, but last I checked, she was pro covid vaccine, which I definitely don't agree with. Bernie Sanders at least wanted parents to have more power over whether their kids should be vaccinated, but ultimately, he's too pro big pharma as well, which resulted in him having a bit of a tiff with RFK Jr. during his nomination.
 
goat said:
I did a sock search last month and your name popped up.
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A "sock search"? Not sure how one would go about that, but I'm -guessing- that you might have searched for my name and sock being close together. I know that Dutch Uncle seemed to think I was a sock once. We seem to be getting along better now, but perhaps that's what you came up with. Regardless, I know I have no socks here or anywhere else.
 
Tobytone said:
Not long ago, if you asked any Democrat if they loved this country, supported the Constitution, and backed free-market capitalism, you'd get a firm yes every time.
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I haven't seen any Democrats here saying they don't support the constitution. As to free-market capitalism, I think American and western capitalism generally has never really been free- it's always been regulated. Regulation isn't bad in and of itself- the -real- problem is that it's become increasingly regulated to benefit the rich at the expense of the poor. Wall Street financial analyst and American Professor Michael Hudson gets into what's wrong with American capitalism today in an article he published recently. I made a thread of it here:
Scott

Thread 'How the Global Majority can free itself from US financial colonialism | Michael Hudson'

Just finished reading the article that shares the name of this thread by Michael Hudson, I thought it was very good. It can be seen here:
www.geopoliticaleconomy.report

Michael Hudson: How the Global Majority can free itself from US financial colonialism

Economist Michael Hudson describes how China created an alternative to the Western neoliberal order, and how the Global South can challenge the rent extraction of US-centered financial colonialism.
www.geopoliticaleconomy.report www.geopoliticaleconomy.report

For those who'd like to know a bit more about the author before reading what he has to say, here's what's at the end of his article:
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Michael Hudson is president of the Institute for the Study of Long-Term Economic Trends (ISLET), a Wall Street financial analyst, and distinguished research professor of economics at the University of Missouri...
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Tobytone said:
Your mention of the Electoral College shows where you're at on understanding our system of government. It's either ignorance or worse. If you know what scrapping the Electoral College would do to our system and still want to change it, you're in the wrong country, try France.
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I decided to look online to see a trending article on the subject of the U.S. electoral college. I found this one, which lists what it considers to be its pros and cons:
connectusfund.org

14 Pros and Cons of Abolishing the Electoral College

As the U.S. Government Archives likes to say, the Electoral College “is a process, not a place.” This structure was placed in the Constitution by the Founding Fathers of the United States as a compromise
connectusfund.org connectusfund.org

Ultimately, it's not an issue I place a lot of importance on. If Americans don't push hard enough to change it, perhaps it's fine to keep it.
 
Tobytone said:
It's great you think you can bridge the left and right but saying it doesn't make it true.
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I never said I could do that. I said that I personally manage to navigate between those on the left and on the right, more or less. Essentially, I get along with those on the right when talking about things that they tend to agree with, such as the right to bear arms and the right to choose whether to get vaccines and I get along with those on the left when talking about issues such as immigration and the right for women to choose whether to have a baby.
 
Tobytone said:
Give me one example of something Trump has done that you agree with. No buts, ifs, or almost.
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Already did that- his nomination of RFK Jr. to lead HHS. And while I've become a bit disappointed in Tulsi Gabbard, I still think she was a better candidate than others and she has done some good work in her new role as well, such as exposing some of the previous Administration's surveillance of some Americans that didn't deserve it.
 
Scott said:
I didn't mention any of my right leaning in the post you're responding to, I did that in a previous post. Right leaning is in orange:
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Ok sure, I'll admit most libtards would remove the 1st and 2nd Ammendment if they could, but that's not exactly sticking your neck out.
Scott said:
You think I'm a democrat? I supported Bernie Sanders when he ran for President on the democratic ticket, as well as RFK Jr. when he did the same. I imagine you know that both of those candidates weren't what the democratic establishment wanted and both of those candidates were delt with in a dirty manner by said establishment, resulting in neither of them getting the ticket. After Bernie dropped from the electoral race the first time, all I knew is that if I were American, I wouldn't have voted for Hillary or Trump. After 4 years of Trump, when Bernie dropped out again and endorsed Biden, I figured Biden should be better than another 4 years of Trump. Now I'm not so sure. In any case, when it was Trump vs. Kamala, again, I wouldn't have voted for either. I -was- pleased when Trump picked RFK Jr. to lead the department of Health and Human Services. I think RFK Jr. has done some good work there and I hope he continues to do more.



Well, I manage here. I've already told you I agree with Tucker Carlson on some things, such as his want to get out of various foreign wars and his distrust of covid vaccines.
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Why not just answer the easy yes or no questions? Why dodge the easy questions? Should men compete in women's sports? Should we deport illegal aliens, no matter what else they've done? You say you support the 1st and 2nd Amendments, but with qualifiers when the Amendment isn't vague at all. Not exactly bold, but still far to right-wing for any of the libtards here.

Backing Bernie puts you firmly with the lefties, and that's fine. We need two sides to sort things out. But your party doesn't want you anymore, you're not extreme enough, even if you're already as far left as anyone should be in my opinion.

Your Bernie love shows you might be missing the memo on why systems like socialism have tanked throughout history over and over with piles of bodies to prove it. One thing I'll give Bernie, he's consistent. Sucking up taxpayer cash for years to fund his homes and comfy lifestyle, skipping the whole get a job in the real-world thing, never wavering on his socialist spiel. His ideas are ancient, proven failures and dangerous, but he sticks to them.

Props for backing the 1st and 2nd Amendments and your crusade to keep it civil. Won't earn you cheers from any lefties here, though. The only one that's responding with disagreement but keeping it civil is a Trump supporter. Good luck getting any left-leaners to join you in effort. If it happens, let me know.
 
Scott said:
Well, he hasn't denied what you've said, so I'll keep it in mind as a possibility. Since I never knew YaYa/Yurt, I've only known him as goat. I've agreed with goat on some things, disagreed with him on others. I think the same is true for most if not all of the posters in this forum :-p. As to goat personally, he seems to refrain from insulting too much, which I definitely consider to be a plus.
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I'll just point out again, you won't get a thumbs up from Fowl for this post. Why do you suppose that is? You're not agreeing everything she said, and she said all of the 'correct' talking points to you thinking you'd nod along like a good little libtard should. That doesn't compute in a drone's mind, it causes a short-circuit, and that fowl owl can't handle many more of those.
 
Scott said:
Already did that- his nomination of RFK Jr. to lead HHS. And while I've become a bit disappointed in Tulsi Gabbard, I still think she was a better candidate than others and she has done some good work in her new role as well, such as exposing some of the previous Administration's surveillance of some Americans that didn't deserve it.
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Yes, I'm sure here latest declassification is a bit disappointing.
 
Scott said:
I never said I could do that. I said that I personally manage to navigate between those on the left and on the right, more or less. Essentially, I get along with those on the right when talking about things that they tend to agree with, such as the right to bear arms and the right to choose whether to get vaccines and I get along with those on the left when talking about issues such as immigration and the right for women to choose whether to have a baby.
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Again, just an observation, a little pet peeve of mine. You said immigration instead of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, there's a huge difference. I'm all for legal immigration, in fact, because there's so many people opting out of the whole having babies thing and so many women are having abortions, we need more LEGAL immigration than ever before. So, let's not forget that all important word when trying to virtue signal.
 
Tobytone said:
Scott said:
I didn't mention any of my right leaning in the post you're responding to, I did that in a previous post. Right leaning is in orange:
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Ok sure, I'll admit most libtards would remove the 1st and 2nd Ammendment if they could, but that's not exactly sticking your neck out.
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From what I've read, democrats like to argue that those on the right misinterpret the 2nd amendment. I don't agree. Now, I'm not saying there can't be a -bit- more gun control regulation in some areas, but in others, I think it's already too tightly controlled.

As to the 1st amendment, I think both the left -and- the right have been overly restrictive in a lot of cases, just on different issues. With the left, I believe they've been too strict when it comes to some issues such as discussing certain trans issues. When it comes to the right, I believe they've been too restrictive when it comes to protesting Israel's ongoing genocide in the middle east.
 
Scott said:
So you think it's because it's someone who's not supposed to be here or you think we scared them away :-p?
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I think some folks come around, think they like the idea of a forum like this, then when they come back to their computer... well... Not so much...

They just don't post again.
 
Tobytone said:
Scott said:
You think I'm a democrat? I supported Bernie Sanders when he ran for President on the democratic ticket, as well as RFK Jr. when he did the same. I imagine you know that both of those candidates weren't what the democratic establishment wanted and both of those candidates were delt with in a dirty manner by said establishment, resulting in neither of them getting the ticket. After Bernie dropped from the electoral race the first time, all I knew is that if I were American, I wouldn't have voted for Hillary or Trump. After 4 years of Trump, when Bernie dropped out again and endorsed Biden, I figured Biden should be better than another 4 years of Trump. Now I'm not so sure. In any case, when it was Trump vs. Kamala, again, I wouldn't have voted for either. I -was- pleased when Trump picked RFK Jr. to lead the department of Health and Human Services. I think RFK Jr. has done some good work there and I hope he continues to do more.

Well, I manage here. I've already told you I agree with Tucker Carlson on some things, such as his want to get out of various foreign wars and his distrust of covid vaccines.
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Why not just answer the easy yes or no questions? Why dodge the easy questions?
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I didn't dodge any questions from your previous post, I just didn't see any. Looking back at it, I now see that there was one. You get into this question again in this post though, and in a format I prefer, so I'll just answer it this time.

Tobytone said:
Should men compete in women's sports?
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I think that biological women should have the option to not compete with biological men. I see that Trump agrees.
 
Tobytone said:
You say you support the 1st and 2nd Amendments, but with qualifiers when the Amendment isn't vague at all.
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First off, you're talking about 2 Amendments, not one, and secondly, I think the 2nd one is pretty clear and the left is the one that's been trampling on that one. I think the first one has been trampled on by both sides.
 
Tobytone said:
Backing Bernie puts you firmly with the lefties, and that's fine. We need two sides to sort things out. But your party doesn't want you anymore, you're not extreme enough, even if you're already as far left as anyone should be in my opinion.
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Since I'm not American, there wasn't even the possibility of me registring as a democrat, but after the disaster that was Biden's first term, not to mention the terrible treatment suffered by both Bernie when running against Hillary and then RFK Jr. when running against Biden, I doubt I'll be supporting the democratic party any time soon. I think AOC is on the right track on -some- things, but definitely not when it comes to big pharma.
 
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