Hmmm.

Truth Detector said:
This is exactly what is wrong today. So speaking freely and civil debate is risky and could lead to an assassination. How fucking dumb have we become as a society/

Wise words from Orwell:

“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
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I agree with Charlie, speaking freely should invite dialogue, and the campuses are exactly the place that critical thinking should be taught. You cannot teach critical thinking in "safe spaces". Look. I am not a Christian. I have never been shy telling folks here that fact. I have no belief that gay people are "sinners", do not care if they get married, and support gay people in nearly every way. Charlie thought they were sinners, because that is what his religion taught him.

If I were there, I would use the mic, tell him my thoughts and underline the first amendment isn't just about speech and I get to believe differently, laws should not be based on his religion alone, and he would provide me with his thoughts on the matter.

This idea that anyone "deserves" my wrath because of disagreement flies in the face of this board... I let people disagree, even to the point that they are clearly ideologues and will never learn. Because I believe they have a right to be jerks and we have no right to be protected from their thoughts.
 
Damocles said:
He did not. I have watched many videos after his death, never once did he encourage violence at all, let alone towards LGBTQ+ folks. Even Stephen King backed out of his "stone them" remark, understanding that he was mocking someone else who was cherry picking verses.

While I didn't agree with him on some of his stances in these regards, disagreement was never because of a suggestion of violence. It was mostly that I do not believe in his religion and do not believe that gay people are "sinning". He never suggested they should be hurt. He understood that folks had a right to believe differently in that regard.
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Well, you missed the episode where he said LBGTQ should be treated as they were in the 50-60’s. I suggest you research what happened to the LBGTQ community during those decades.
 
Phantasmal said:
Well, you missed the episode where he said LBGTQ should be treated as they were in the 50-60’s. I suggest you research what happened to the LBGTQ community during those decades.
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He was talking about trans folks, and he thought they needed psychological help for their delusions. He did not promote violence, he promoted care.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Oh give me a break. How many fucking children have died in mass shootings that were preventable
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How were they preventable you brainless leftist hack? The last group were done by transpeople with serious mental issues. Tell; us how they could have been prevented. It should be a good laugh to see how truly stupid and ignorant you can be.

Mott the Hoople said:
and this prick says it’s worth it to preserve his extremist 2A views?
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Constitutional views are only extremist to the moron class you belong to.

You're an obvious product of public indoctrination. You non-thinking troglodyte. :palm:

Mott the Hoople said:
I’m not being remotely as insensitive as Kirk was, for example, toward the families of Sandy Hook victims.
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What did he say about the Sandy Hook victim's halfwit? Give us a credible link to your bullshit.

Mott the Hoople said:
I wasn’t seeking laughs either. It is ironic that he died while defending his opposition to reasonable gun control. Something that if reasonable controls were in place he’d probably still be alive to debate them.
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What is this "reasonable" gun control do you stupidly believe would end lunatics from murdering kids and political opponents? Share it with us. I'd like to see just how stupid you can get.

Mott the Hoople said:
I’ve also have clearly stated that I clearly denounce this sort of violence and the culprit when found should have a fair trial and a hanging.
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It just illustrates how shamelessly stupid you get when blaming the victim. :palm:

Mott the Hoople said:
So try coming out from under your rock and see the world objectively for what is really happening in this country and tell me why I should be sympathetic towards an extremist who himself advocated violence?
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I am amused that you don't think you're the brainless douchebag living under a rock. :palm:
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Yea shall reap what yea shall sow. He reaped his own hatred adn bigotry. I think political violence will happen several more times before the Midterms. Mostly because the Orange Messiah wants it. Sad.

Galatians 6:7-9
7 Do not be deceived. God will not be made a fool. For a person will reap what he sows,
8 because the person who sows to his own flesh will reap corruption from the flesh, but the one who sows to the Spirit will reap eternal life from the Spirit.
9 So we must not grow weary in doing good, for in due time we will reap, if we do not give up.
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Dutch Uncle said:
Most intelligent, educated and sane people know the difference between business decisions and political ones. IMO, the problem is too many American voters who are whiny man-children, but I could be wrong. Notice how children are quick to violence but adults not so much.
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Indeed, we call them leftist Democrats; you bring the best example of a whiny, man-child who is stuck on moron. ;)

Dutch Uncle said:
Charlie preached hate and division. He got hate and division. Now Trump wants more.
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Another moronic CNN bullshit claim. Tell us what was hateful and divisive about his speech you moron. :palm:

Of course, in moron land where you wallow, claiming Trump and his supporters are Hitler Nazis and threats to Democracy is reasonable right? Fucking dumbass. :palm:

Dutch Uncle said:
This won't end until dozens, if not hundreds, of Americans are dead. It's what Trump wants and what his MAGAt Congress will hand him.
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You project a lot while uttering completely false and asinine statements brainless wonder dunce. :palm:

Dutch Uncle said:
Only after that will a majority of Americans rise up and say "ENOUGH!"
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They already have last November dumb shit. I am very hopeful they will say it even louder in the midterms.
 
cawacko said:
I'm not sure what Jan 6th has to do with this. That seems like a different discussion.

Kirk was definitely provocative, and that no doubt made him a target. Just to me, saying free speech comes with consequences after someone was murdered sounds like saying it was justified.
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What was provocative? I keep hearing this brainless claim with nothing to back it up. Was it a belief in God? Was it his belief in the family and having children? Was it his factual claim there are only two genders? Or, was it his belief in the Constitution and the American dream?

Help us out here and be specific.
 
Damocles said:
"His thugs"?

Link us up. Claims like this need context.
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Us? You and your MAGA pals? Okay:

www.statepress.com

Students, faculty frustrated with Turning Point USA and ASU after altercation involving faculty member - The Arizona State Press

Some LGBTQ+ students and faculty question their safety on campus after an ASU professor was assaulted by two members of Turning Point USA Wednesday afternoon.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1713000985386475833
View: https://x.com/brahmresnik/status/1713000985386475833
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Once an administration advocates political violence, it'd be stupid of them to not expect blowback.

By pardoning the 1/6 terrorists and traitors, much less hiring them as ICE agents, can you see how this invites blowback? Even by a few nutjobs?

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:lolup: The definition of moron. But alas, morons don't know they are morons.
 
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