Holocaust Denial - American Style

[Cypress]

I honestly don't give a crap about debating car accident rates, versus the rate of death of american soldiers in iraq. That debate is ludicrous.

4000 dead american soldiers is tragic. That number, and that sacrifice, is well reported.

The violent death of hundreds of thousands - perhaps a million - human beings in Iraq is virutally unimaginable. And few in America are aware of the scale of suffering Bush's war has unleashed.

 

[Cancel7]

You are absolutely correct.

Americans don't give a damn about dead Iraqis even with the knowledge that we mass-murdered them for profit, even with the knowledge that we've blown up and MELTED children and babies, and even with the knowledge that they were ALL, including Saddam, were innocent of any crime against the United States. We simply invented a reason to kill innocent people and Americans don't give a damn.

The impetus behind much of the antiwar sentiment in America today is because American troops are needlessly dying and this holocaust is draining the military and the Treasury.

The mass-murder of Iraqis is rarely even mentioned in MSM, nor is their suffering, nor destruction of their infrastructure and historical monuments.

Yet some whine like disgusting pigs about "where is the good news?" .. which would be like saying the Nazis passed out candy to children before they led them into the gas chamber. Whoopeee

Iraq is the decline of the American empire and it spent every last drop of the global goodwill this nation built from from our actions in WWII. The Emperor is naked and the rest of the world can clearly see the ugliness of the US agenda .. and they are distancing themselves from the stench of it.

I know. I heard Scott Ritter speak a few weeks ago, I think I told you about it? And I thought to myself, well, someone has finally got it, when he stated that the peace movement should wake up from their dream that 70% of Americans are now anti-war. Because what they are against is, losing that war. But they are not anti-war, and never will be and that is why bush can get majority backing to bomb Iran if he convinces Americans it will be an “easy win” and get them their mojo back. They don’t care what the bill in Iranian lives would be.

They simply, do not care.

It is sickening, it is horrifying, and finally, it is enraging, but it is also fact.

I have come to the point where I don’t give one rat’s behind about people like Gonzo. I couldn’t talk to him in person without vomiting on him.

 

[blackascoal]

I know. I heard Scott Ritter speak a few weeks ago, I think I told you about it? And I thought to myself, well, someone has finally got it, when he stated that the peace movement should wake up from their dream that 70% of Americans are now anti-war. Because what they are against is, losing that war. But they are not anti-war, and never will be and that is why bush can get majority backing to bomb Iran if he convinces Americans it will be an “easy win” and get them their mojo back. They don’t care what the bill in Iranian lives would be.

They simply, do not care.

It is sickening, it is horrifying, and finally, it is enraging, but it is also fact.

I have come to the point where I don’t give one rat’s behind about people like Gonzo. I couldn’t talk to him in person without vomiting on him.

Nor should any of us give a rat's ass about people who are devoid of conscience like Gonzo .. but we are surrounded by Gonzo's. This is what America is .. a nation of Gonzo's. A nation that is incapable of looking in the mirror.

Unfortunately for our children, there is a blowback that is already brewing all over the world. That blowback will manifest itself in a lower standard of living for Americans, but that lowered standard could not be more justly deserved.

 

[leaningright]

Nor should any of us give a rat's ass about people who are devoid of conscience like Gonzo .. but we are surrounded by Gonzo's. This is what America is .. a nation of Gonzo's. A nation that is incapable of looking in the mirror.

Unfortunately for our children, there is a blowback that is already brewing all over the world. That blowback will manifest itself in a lower standard of living for Americans, but that lowered standard could not be more justly deserved.

That last sentence is what gets the far left in trouble and prompts questions like "Why do you hate America?" When the average person reads or hears statements like the last sentence above then what more do you expect?

 

[Battleborne]

Thats Darla................Ms.Code Pinko!

I don't give a shit about anyone other than my own countrymen, if that's what you mean.

People like you sat around smoking joints and spitting on troops while real patriots waded through blood in Vietnam, and the same thing is happening here now--- you seem to think that because you have enough money and enough security in your country to worry about enemy combatants dying means that the rest of the world shares your pathetic sensabilities, and it isn't true....the Iraqis killing our soldiers don't give a shit about how many Americans die, there are no Iraqis protesting that Americans are dying, yet you sit in your living room and pass judgment on those out there fighting to keep the world safe....maybe Iraq is a war that was based on a false premise, but I assure you that all of the "Bush lied, kids died" recitation in the world will not change the fact that Saddam Hussein was a genocidal lunatic.

So yes, if 600,000 or 1,000,000 Iraqis have died because of the war, I say good riddance--- because that means 1,000,000 fuckers that can't send home one of my buddies in a body bag. As for innocent civilian casualties, that sucks for them, but that is the reality of war.

So don't sit there behind the anonymity of your computer screen and wish for my death because I still have some patriotism; instead wish for the deaths of the people that have been killing Americans for decades now while we hid behind the false ideology of the peace symbol and the broken, decaying culture that it represented.

However she is also a size 12/14...and I do believe she is the one waddling around K-Mart at 4:00am

 

[gonzojournals]

Nor should any of us give a rat's ass about people who are devoid of conscience like Gonzo .. but we are surrounded by Gonzo's. This is what America is .. a nation of Gonzo's. A nation that is incapable of looking in the mirror.

Unfortunately for our children, there is a blowback that is already brewing all over the world. That blowback will manifest itself in a lower standard of living for Americans, but that lowered standard could not be more justly deserved.

I can look in the mirror at any point-- my blessing is that I just don't give a shit, whereas you people care so much that you are blinded by it.

I wouldn't worry about the international blowback as much as the growing outrage across the country itself--- the nation full of Gonzos will be more real than you think, if the present situation continues.

 

[blackascoal]

I can look in the mirror at any point-- my blessing is that I just don't give a shit, whereas you people care so much that you are blinded by it.

I wouldn't worry about the international blowback as much as the growing outrage across the country itself--- the nation full of Gonzos will be more real than you think, if the present situation continues.

I have absolutely no doubt that you can look at yourself in the mirror. My reference was about people of conscience, not you .. and I agree with you, spirituality and conscience are a burden that those who don't possess them do not have to bear. I'd rather be dead then not possess them, but that's just me.

The growing "outrage" across the country is bringing into question the thoughts of people who think just like you do. More and more Americans are waking up to the reality that we are more dependent on the rest of the world trhan the world is dependent on us. Perhaps you can think of a commodity, good, resource, product, or service that the rest of the world can only get from us?

Don't care about international blowback? .. That's real interesting, but hardly deep thought.

 

[gonzojournals]

I have absolutely no doubt that you can look at yourself in the mirror. My reference was about people of conscience, not you .. and I agree with you, spirituality and conscience are a burden that those who don't possess them do not have to bear. I'd rather be dead then not possess them, but that's just me.

The growing "outrage" across the country is bringing into question the thoughts of people who think just like you do. More and more Americans are waking up to the reality that we are more dependent on the rest of the world trhan the world is dependent on us. Perhaps you can think of a commodity, good, resource, product, or service that the rest of the world can only get from us?

Don't care about international blowback? .. That's real interesting, but hardly deep thought.

The problem is that America has always had some sort of inferiority complex towards Europe and other Western countries, and if anything we seem to devalue our country.

Other countries may bitch about us for now, but when Paris is burning again we will be the first ones they call.

 

[Socrtease]

The problem is that America has always had some sort of inferiority complex towards Europe and other Western countries, and if anything we seem to devalue our country.

Other countries may bitch about us for now, but when Paris is burning again we will be the first ones they call.

I think that for most of our Country's history we have not felt inferior or superior to any other country in the world. I think that for the most part the "collective" view of our place in the world was as "The City on the Hill." We have seen ourselves as a beacon to the rest of the world as to what a country can become if it does not oppress its people, allows them freedom of thought, freedom of information, freedom to worship as they see fit (or not at all), and freedom to be left alone.

There have also been times in our history that this country has felt that our way of life was not just to be an example but something that we forced on others. That became particularly evident during the cold war when both the US and the USSR felt the need to support governments that believed more in controlling their populace than allowing them to choose what form their government would take. The two most glaring examples of this are also the two times in which our military has become mired in conflicts in which it seemed we had more desire that the country we were fighting in be "free and democratic" than the people in that country themselves.

 

[blackascoal]

The problem is that America has always had some sort of inferiority complex towards Europe and other Western countries, and if anything we seem to devalue our country.

Other countries may bitch about us for now, but when Paris is burning again we will be the first ones they call.

I've never known America top have any inferiority complex about any nation, in fact, the reverse is closer to the truth. The "ugly American" didn't become ugly because we thought we were less than Europe.

Given the events of the last 7 years, I think it's obvious that we set Paris on fire .. and the rest of the world is busy creating their own fire brigades so they don't have to rely on the pyromaniac to put out the fires we started.

Did you think of all the wonderful things the rest of the world needs to get from us that they can't get anywhere else ?

We need the rest of the world more than it needs us.

 

[gonzojournals]

I've never known America top have any inferiority complex about any nation, in fact, the reverse is closer to the truth. The "ugly American" didn't become ugly because we thought we were less than Europe.

Given the events of the last 7 years, I think it's obvious that we set Paris on fire .. and the rest of the world is busy creating their own fire brigades so they don't have to rely on the pyromaniac to put out the fires we started.

Yes, it makes so much sense to compare the US invasion of Iraq to WWII and Nazi Germany--- why don't you let the adults talk now, you fool?

Did you think of all the wonderful things the rest of the world needs to get from us that they can't get anywhere else ?

We need the rest of the world more than it needs us.

You keep saying that, yet I am not seeing it. I'm not saying that the world would not survive without the United States, but it would be the same as the fall of Rome at least--- the world would quickly become very different, economics would certainly suffer, etc.

 

[blackascoal]

Yes, it makes so much sense to compare the US invasion of Iraq to WWII and Nazi Germany--- why don't you let the adults talk now, you fool?

It makes sense to compare the US invasion of Iraq, that was based on false and contrived evidence, to a lot of ugly ass shit, including the holocaust. History will write a horrific chapter about the mindless, profit-driven mass-murder of countless innocent people in Iraq by a rogue and out of control America.

Here's hoping those adults you're talking about have a better sense of the world than you do.

You keep saying that, yet I am not seeing it. I'm not saying that the world would not survive without the United States, but it would be the same as the fall of Rome at least--- the world would quickly become very different, economics would certainly suffer, etc.

I have no problem with you believing that, although I'm not even remotely suggesting that the world should be without the US. What I'm saying is that we had better not be without the rest of the world, and that is exactly the consquence of a government dominated by the right-wing. The end of the American empire has been hastened by those who claim most to be patriots. The same goosesteppers who questioned the patriotism of anyone who didn't fall in line to orders given through braindead right-wing talk radio and didn't salute Herr Limbaugh, Hannity, and Coulter, are the same ones who have led this nation into chaos.

Now war and challanges are breaking out everywhere and our military is broken .. and we just threw about a trillion dollars and counting down the toliet bowl of George Bush's mind.

With "patriots" like these, who needs enemies.