How do you determine who is illegal?

[TOP]

How many illegals came into the country during President Trump's administration? How many during Joe's?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

How many illegals came into the country during President Trump's administration? How many during Joe's?

As best as I can figure it, given the numbers vary by source, sometimes dramatically, during Trump's first term somewhere between 1.5 and 2.5 million came in. In Biden's term it has been somewhere between about 6 million and 15 million. If we take the average of that, Trump saw about 2 million enter while Biden saw about 10 million enter.

 

[TOP]

As best as I can figure it, given the numbers vary by source, sometimes dramatically, during Trump's first term somewhere between 1.5 and 2.5 million came in. In Biden's term it has been somewhere between about 6 million and 15 million. If we take the average of that, Trump saw about 2 million enter while Biden saw about 10 million enter.

That is quite a significant difference... That probably should have been mentioned if we're talking about numbers deported.... And who deported the most....

 

[Neil N. Blowme]

why do you ASS-UME I do?

Do you or do you not support illegal immigration?

 

[Neil N. Blowme]

I support asylum seekers, they come, we determine if they qualify, if not we deport them. Do you know Biden administration has surpassed Trump in deportations?

There are many countries to run to if someone is seeking asylum. We have Americans living on the street. They come first.

 

[Teflon Don]

I said that?

Yes you did

There absolutely are ways to make self deportation happen more than it is already happening.

Historically the Republican party has looked the other way regarding illegals working, its a way around the minimum wadge, and a way to give employers more power over employees. My uncle, who grew oranges (a huge trumpper until he died of COVID) made a lot of money using illegals to pick and grow his orange groves.

trump is not going to upset the Florida orange growers, or other wealthy business owners. Just look how President Elon reacted.

Yeah yeah.i know all of that Captain Obvious. What about that Constitution you were gonna explain?

 

[Teflon Don]

To get a passport? I believe you must show a birth certificate showing you were born in the United States

And why do they ask for that? To prove citizenship right? No presumption of committing a crime correct?

Why do you make this so easy? Are you pretending to be this obtuse to garner attention? Sort of like the child who will take negative attention as long as it is attention?

 

[Into the Night]

I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification​

On the form, an employee must attest to their employment authorization. The employee must also present their employer with acceptable documents as evidence of identity and employment authorization. The employer must examine these documents to determine whether they reasonably appear to be genuine and relate to the employee, then record the document information on the employee’s Form I-9.



So your employee had to prove their identity ..show you their papers

Thanks for playing...u stupid fuck!

He's obviously making shit up again. He's not a lawyer. He has never hired anyone.

 

[Into the Night]

I assume I asked for his DL to provide the information. He voluntarily gave it to me.

You have obviously never hired anyone nor filled out an I9 form as an employer. Stop pretending.

 

[Into the Night]

why do you ASS-UME I do?

Your posts.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

They do not have a "right" to just arrest someone because they refuse to identify. There is no obligation on the citizen to aid the officer in their investigation, and they do not have a right to just arrest folks because they are annoying.

MAGAts hate the Constitution of the United States in that they think it only applies to them and not women or anyone with skin darker than a paper lunch bag. Fuck them. They are assholes. In the Revolution, they are the first ones to be shot.

 

[TOP]

There are many countries to run to if someone is seeking asylum. We have Americans living on the street. They come first.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

That is quite a significant difference... That probably should have been mentioned if we're talking about numbers deported.... And who deported the most....

I have discussed that before. By percentage, Biden's deportation rate is the lowest since WW 2 at about 9%. Most administrations have a rate of 15 to 25%.

 

[Daylight63]

You do not have to prove you are a citizen unless they have reasonable suspicion you are guilty of a crime.

That's gonna change. In Trumpmerica you will have to show your papers if you fit any of these skin tones:

 

[Daylight63]

We have Americans living on the street. They come first.

Since when have Americans living on the street been "important" to us in ANY way?

America doesn't give one flying FUCK about the poor or homeless. That's not the point anyway.

America could "fix" the illegal immigration problem TOMORROW and we'd turn around and ignore the homeless like we always do. We aren't going to start caring about the homeless anytime soon.

That would COST US MONEY and NOT RESULT IN SOMEONE BEING PUNISHED. If we spend money in America someone has to lose.

 

[Neil N. Blowme]

Since when have Americans living on the street been "important" to us in ANY way?

America doesn't give one flying FUCK about the poor or homeless. That's not the point anyway.

America could "fix" the illegal immigration problem TOMORROW and we'd turn around and ignore the homeless like we always do. We aren't going to start caring about the homeless anytime soon.

That would COST US MONEY and NOT RESULT IN SOMEONE BEING PUNISHED. If we spend money in America someone has to lose.

We are fixing the illegal immigration problem.

 

[IBDaMann]

We have laws against that.

Look, you are correct that We the People don't have to "show our papers" ... unless a crime is suspected. The government is not prohibited from investigating whether one is here illegaly.

 

[gfm7175]

I have discussed that before. By percentage, Biden's deportation rate is the lowest since WW 2 at about 9%. Most administrations have a rate of 15 to 25%.

Oh no, you're making reference to PERCENTAGES... The libtards will be even more confused than usual.......

 

[IBDaMann]

Since when have Americans living on the street been "important" to us in ANY way?

There's that Marxist "us" again with which you are pretending to speak for untold others. Your question should have been worded "Since when have Americans living on the street been 'important' to me in ANY way?"

Historically, the vast majority of Americans have been very concerned about the impoverished and have sought to provide a rising tide to lift all boats. It's a shame you HATE the homeless and oppose all such efforts to help.

America doesn't give one flying FUCK about the poor or homeless.

You only speak for you.

America could "fix" the illegal immigration problem TOMORROW and we'd turn around and ignore the homeless like we always do.

Yes, OTHERS could fix the problem while you work tirelessly to subvert all such efforts, and yes, there will always be more poverty-stricken who seek our shores for the opportunities present.

Many of the poor are poor because they gave up on themselves, expecting others to carry them. There are some poor and homeless who cannot be helped, just as there are some incorrigibly confused leftists who simply cannot be helped.

We aren't going to start caring about the homeless anytime soon.

Well, you won't. Others will continue to do so.

That would COST US MONEY

It would certainly cost you money ... or time ... or effort.

and NOT RESULT IN SOMEONE BEING PUNISHED.

This is why the left obsesses over punishing Trump to cover for their crimes.

If we spend money in America someone has to lose.

You mean to write that if you undertake a project, some political opponent has to lose.

 

[IBDaMann]

We are fixing the illegal immigration problem.

We are also addressing the "poor" and the "homeless" problem.