How Long?

martin said:
Which makes the Hamas security all the more impressive. The Gaza public could not have known without Israeli intelligence also knowing. The puzzle in this is what did Hamas hope to achieve. They had to know holy hell would come at both them and all of Gaza.
Anyway, the existence of a vast rocket supply by Hamas was known.
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Hamas massing weapons would have been common. It's not like its news that Hamas conducts terrorist attacks on Israel. Common citizens wouldn't have known how many missiles Hamas was stockpiling, only that they were doing it.

Still, the fact so much material was assembled is, indeed, a major intelligence failure which falls directly into Bibi's lap since he's been Israel's Prime Minister almost continuously since 2009.
 
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ExpressLane said:
The Israelis let Muslims serve in the Knesset . If the Palestinians weren't such assholes and built up and built industry rather than rockets to kill with and tried to not make war I suspect Israel would leave them alone
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I think they'd cheer and consider it a peace expensively won, actually.
 
Doc Dutch said:
He won't. Iran is behind this and Biden has cut a deal for hostages already. The old "Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me twice, shame on me" rule applies.

A better question is "When will Pedo Don fans start screaming to stop US troops and equipment from rescuing Americans held hostage in Gaza?"

FWIW, once the Americans are rescued, I support leveling Gaza to the base rock and sand then letting it be rebuilt as an Israeli beach resort city.
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I don't think hostages will leave alive. Right now, there is no electricity in all of Gaza.
 
Althea said:
I don't think hostages will leave alive. Right now, there is no electricity in all of Gaza.
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Unfortunately, I agree. The best thing to hope for is that IDF finds their bodies and kills their murderers as it takes Gaza apart brick by brick.
 
Althea said:
I don't think hostages will leave alive. Right now, there is no electricity in all of Gaza.
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I suspect that will be the case. Once the hostages' captors decide they no longer have any negotiation value, their murder simplifies things for the captors. I think given what we're seeing of the Israeli response, the hostages have little value as pawns for negotiation at this point.
 
Bourbon said:
There wasn't an Election that put them charge ... you know, like how MAGA took over the Republican Party? :laugh:
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Right, the Gaza Strip doesn't have elections, nor did the populace ask to be there. It's where fate put them.

Easy to demonize whole populations when you're secure in your ignorance about them.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I suspect that will be the case. Once the hostages' captors decide they no longer have any negotiation value, their murder simplifies things for the captors. I think given what we're seeing of the Israeli response, the hostages have little value as pawns for negotiation at this point.
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I get that impression. Understandably, there is blood lust similar to that we had for Bin Laden.
And Bibi is less compassionate than trump, if such a thing is possible.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
I suspect that will be the case. Once the hostages' captors decide they no longer have any negotiation value, their murder simplifies things for the captors. I think given what we're seeing of the Israeli response, the hostages have little value as pawns for negotiation at this point.
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Initially it was suggested that Hamas would try and trade for imprisoned terrorists in Israel. It's hard to know exactly where Hamas has infiltrated, but they might try a prison break instead.
 
martin said:
Right, the Gaza Strip doesn't have elections, nor did the populace ask to be there. It's where fate put them.

Easy to demonize whole populations when you're secure in your ignorance about them.
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Like I said they never should have put Hamas in charge.
Hamas, a militant, fundamentalist Islamic organization, has governed the Gaza Strip since 2007. Hamas came to power in the last elections in 2006. They won a majority of seats in the Palestinian Authority's (PA) legislature and formed a government.
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https://www.usip.org/palestinian-politics-timeline-2006-election
 
Althea said:
Initially it was suggested that Hamas would try and trade for imprisoned terrorists in Israel. It's hard to know exactly where Hamas has infiltrated, but they might try a prison break instead.
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I think Hamas' general actions, particularly the slaughter of women, children, and babies has ended any possibility of that for the short-term. I also suspect that there are few Hamas combatants still within Israel and any that are, are either laying low and trying to figure how the fuck to escape. I don't think Hamas has the forces within Israel to make an attempt on a prison to free their comrades.
 
Althea said:
Initially it was suggested that Hamas would try and trade for imprisoned terrorists in Israel. It's hard to know exactly where Hamas has infiltrated, but they might try a prison break instead.
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Before patting yourself on the back for what you just found on the Internet look up what the opposition was.
 
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T. A. Gardner said:
I think Hamas' general actions, particularly the slaughter of women, children, and babies has ended any possibility of that for the short-term. I also suspect that there are few Hamas combatants still within Israel and any that are, are either laying low and trying to figure how the fuck to escape. I don't think Hamas has the forces within Israel to make an attempt on a prison to free their comrades.
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I'm sure those who infiltrated IDF sites knew they were on a suicide mission. Israel has yet to announce that they have full control of all of the captured installations, but I'm sure there can't be many terrorists left.
 
Althea said:
I'm sure those who infiltrated IDF sites knew they were on a suicide mission. Israel has yet to announce that they have full control of all of the captured installations, but I'm sure there can't be many terrorists left.
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There'll be a lot less in another month. :thup:
 
Althea said:
LOL. I didn't mean to embarrass you. I see you're having a bad day.

If you care to resubmit your idiotic post in English, I'll read it.

Otherwise, go fuck yourself.
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My mistake and apology. Just realized the post you questioned meant for someone else.
 
martin said:
My mistake and apology. Just realized the post you questioned meant for someone else.
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Now I don't know if we're both being sarcastic, but I do see that my post was one above our resident moron.

I don't normally have any issues with your content.
 
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