How much MONEY is bleeding from the economy right now??

[LV426]

Mueller's investigation is already funded through the end of September so it shouldn't be affected directly. I suspect Mitch has another reason to keep it shut down, but we will see.

Well, the prevailing reason is because opening the government would be a tacit admission that they manufactured a crisis so they didn't have to admit they got conned by the wall talk.

You see, Conservatives think they have impeccable judgment and strong instincts. It's part of the artificial image they construct for themselves. But it's all bullshit because Conservatives have the worst judgment and the poorest instincts to go along with their weak minds and rotten characters.

Conservatism should not survive this decade. It needs to be destroyed and the earth must be salted so it can never come back. Ever.

 

[Centerleftfl]

Sort of. Just the ones they don't murder in gang-related violence.

So 'they' oppress their own AND WHITES oppress them as well. Aren't you lucky you are white? I'll bet you are proud too!

 

[Irish Exit]

Well, the prevailing reason is because opening the government would be a tacit admission that they manufactured a crisis so they didn't have to admit they got conned by the wall talk.

You see, Conservatives think they have impeccable judgment and strong instincts. It's part of the artificial image they construct for themselves. But it's all bullshit because Conservatives have the worst judgment and the poorest instincts to go along with their weak minds and rotten characters.

Conservatism should not survive this decade. It needs to be destroyed and the earth must be salted so it can never come back. Ever.

I take it you haven't looked at the 2020 Class 2 Senate seats that are up for re-election.

 

[Irish Exit]

So 'they' oppress their own AND WHITES oppress them as well. Aren't you lucky you are white? I'll bet you are proud too!

Only partially so. I could do the Cherokee Nation thing but why bother. Some of my relatives have done it, but it is rather pointless. Last time I was in Europe I was asked a couple times if I was Bosnian. Not sure why. Never been there. It must be the land of real hot men for someone to have mistaken me as one of them.

 

[LV426]

I take it you haven't looked at the 2020 Class 2 Senate seats that are up for re-election.

Have you?

The full state-by-state toplines from PPP:

Do you agree or disagree with President Drumpf that the government should be kept closed until he gets funding for the wall?

Alaska: 41% agree; 55% disagree
Arizona: 40% agree; 55% disagree
Colorado: 38% agree; 58% disagree
Georgia: 41% agree; 55% disagree
Iowa: 39% agree; 56% disagree
Maine: 33% agree; 63% disagree
North Carolina: 39% agree; 57% disagree

Do you support or oppose President Drumpf’s demand that Congress spend billions in taxpayer dollars to build a wall along the southern border?

Alaska: 47% support; 51% oppose
Arizona: 44% support; 54% oppose
Colorado: 42% support; 56% oppose
Georgia: 48% support; 48% oppose
Iowa: 45% support; 51% oppose
Maine: 40% support; 57% oppose
North Carolina: 48% support; 51% oppose

Does (your Republican Senator’s) support of President Drumpf’s plan to keep the government closed if he doesn’t get funding for a border wall make you more or less likely to support her/him in his next election, or does it not make a difference?

Alaska (Sullivan): 41% more likely; 50% less likely
Arizona (McSally): 37% more likely; 50% less likely
Colorado (Gardner): 37% more likely; 49% less likely
Georgia (Perdue): 41% more likely; 51% less likely
Iowa (Ernst): 37% more likely; 49% less likely
Maine (Collins): 32% more likely; 53% less likely
North Carolina (Tillis): 42% more likely; 48% less likely

 

[Irish Exit]

Have you?

Yes

The full state-by-state toplines from PPP:

Do you agree or disagree with President Drumpf that the government should be kept closed until he gets funding for the wall?

Alaska: 41% agree; 55% disagree
Arizona: 40% agree; 55% disagree
Colorado: 38% agree; 58% disagree
Georgia: 41% agree; 55% disagree
Iowa: 39% agree; 56% disagree
Maine: 33% agree; 63% disagree
North Carolina: 39% agree; 57% disagree

Do you support or oppose President Drumpf’s demand that Congress spend billions in taxpayer dollars to build a wall along the southern border?

Alaska: 47% support; 51% oppose
Arizona: 44% support; 54% oppose
Colorado: 42% support; 56% oppose
Georgia: 48% support; 48% oppose
Iowa: 45% support; 51% oppose
Maine: 40% support; 57% oppose
North Carolina: 48% support; 51% oppose

Does (your Republican Senator’s) support of President Drumpf’s plan to keep the government closed if he doesn’t get funding for a border wall make you more or less likely to support her/him in his next election, or does it not make a difference?

Alaska (Sullivan): 41% more likely; 50% less likely
Arizona (McSally): 37% more likely; 50% less likely
Colorado (Gardner): 37% more likely; 49% less likely
Georgia (Perdue): 41% more likely; 51% less likely
Iowa (Ernst): 37% more likely; 49% less likely
Maine (Collins): 32% more likely; 53% less likely
North Carolina (Tillis): 42% more likely; 48% less likely

I am fairly certain that they know how to spell the President's name correctly, but nobody is going to give a shit about today's shutdown two years from now. The republican base, however, will not forget if the GOP caves on immigration and they have something like 21 senate seats up.

 

[bhaktajan]

"Here's the truth, brothers and sisters, there's plenty of money in the world. Plenty of money in this city, it's just in the wrong hands!”
Mayor de Blasio Says Wealth Is ‘in the Wrong Hands,’ Pledges to Redistribute It

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/10/n...e-of-city.html

 

[LV426]

am fairly certain that they know how to spell the President's name correctly, but nobody is going to give a shit about today's shutdown two years from now. The republican base, however, will not forget if the GOP caves on immigration and they have something like 21 senate seats up.

They're going to have to cave on it because the strategy they're using dictates it.

The longer this shutdown drags on, the longer it will stay in people's minds.

And you might think they can simply forget it, but we're not going to let people forget that Trump promised a wall Mexico would pay for, and that everyone who voted for him got conned into believing it.

Eating shit is what these people are going to have to do.

 

[Irish Exit]

They're going to have to cave on it because the strategy they're using dictates it.

The longer this shutdown drags on, the longer it will stay in people's minds.

And you might think they can simply forget it, but we're not going to let people forget that Trump promised a wall Mexico would pay for, and that everyone who voted for him got conned into believing it.

Eating shit is what these people are going to have to do.

Wanting to win and winning are two different things. Ask the British about polling. I think they are supposed to vote on the Brexit plan Tuesday that polls said they would never need because their left were so full of themselves they didn't see it coming.

 

[Centerleftfl]

Or roughly 4 months to equal 5 Billion. Kind of foolish of the Democrats to not fund it and let it go.

YEP, and that is just ONE minuscule set of #'s. Double everything if you have 2 government employees in the same family who buy '2 cokes and 2 sandwiches' for lunch. And have 2 kids in daycare or who are not on the 'frugal food plan' as defined by the USDA.

 

[Centerleftfl]

Wanting to win and winning are two different things. Ask the British about polling. I think they are supposed to vote on the Brexit plan Tuesday that polls said they would never need because their left were so full of themselves they didn't see it coming.

Same Putin, same GRU who pushed BREXIT. WEAKEN each country from within!! The son of a bitches are good, aren't they! AND TRUMP IS SUCKING PUTIN'S ASS!!

 

[Centerleftfl]

Oh, stop it. I am proud to shut down the government. I will take the mantle. I will be the one to shut it down. I am not going blame you for it.
Daffy said that. It cannot be any clearer. You ought to be ashamed of that post. The house, Senate and the president all agreed to open the government til Feb.. Then Trump pulled out. Just Trump.

I remember thinking my god he used a BIG WORD and used it properly.

 

[Truth Detector]

Interesting...

This is all about Trump's anger and his ego.. He's irrational.

You can't solve a problem by lying about it.

Trump asked for a paltry .0165% of the Federal Budget. Pelosi and Schumer, being the low IQ immature children that they are, todl him to pound sand. We'll take the shutdown until these two low IQ children get over their temper tantrum over Trumps Presidential win. If they can ever do that.

 

[Truth Detector]

FEMA, the DEA, the Border Patrol, US Customs and Immigration have ALL addressed Trump's lies.

LINK!

 

[Truth Detector]

Trump is enjoying this.. He gets to be the center of attention and he gets to hurt a lot of people.

I knew this would happen when the adulation of the mob dwindled.

Apparently the manchild Schumer and womancunt Pelosi think its a winner for the 2020 elections.

 

[Irish Exit]

Same Putin, same GRU who pushed BREXIT. WEAKEN each country from within!! The son of a bitches are good, aren't they! AND TRUMP IS SUCKING PUTIN'S ASS!!

He is the President either way, but you might want to consider the possibility that polling is inaccurate and opinions fleeting. Not everything is a Russian Conspiracy.

 

[Truth Detector]

No, Conservatives are choosing to do it because the bill to fund the government passed unanimously in the Senate last month.

Link up dumb fuck.

 

[Truth Detector]

There is no problem.

Fucking moron.

 

[Centerleftfl]

Trump asked for a paltry .0165% of the Federal Budget. Pelosi and Schumer, being the low IQ immature children that they are, todl him to pound sand. We'll take the shutdown until these two low IQ children get over their temper tantrum over Trumps Presidential win. If they can ever do that.

.0165% is how many IN BILLIONS? Start a wall under this incompetent asshole that NANCY and CHUCKIE knows will either die 2 years from now when he is either FORCED out or VOTED out and they are stuck with a USELESS startup project that is never going to go anywhere!!!!

Even I know that. And do you know who understands that MORE? TEXAS! Including CORNYN who stands behind McConnell at every press scrum and doesn't say SHIT!

AND HOW OFTEN DOES CRUZ, YOU KNOW THE OTHER SENATOR FROM TEX, DISCUSS THIS? Has anyone heard him get in front a camera and say a word?

PS Did Cornyn or Cruz show up at TRUMP'S border PHOTO-OP yesterday?

Yep, Cruz is over his shoulder.

 

[Centerleftfl]

I don't know which is the NEAREST town Trump would have had to fly in yesterday that could 'fit' AF1 but I'll assume it is near this town who put this message up on a marquee...