How philosophy is different from science and math

[BidenPresident]

Interesting. Doesn't sound like the couple of philosophy classes I took. I wonder why the logic class is in the Philosophy department at many universities.

You took two logic classes. Is that right?

 

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You took two logic classes. Is that right?

No just one. It was in the philosophy department where I also took philosophy.

 

[BidenPresident]

No just one. It was in the philosophy department where I also took philosophy.

What was the other class?

 

[Cypress]

Which is, itself heavily underlaid by logic. The inferences around rejecting or failing to reject the null hypothesis is the core of inferential statistics but it follows very strict rules of logic.



Thankfully the formal logic is still implicit in the underlying techniques.

Formal logic entails far more than the scientific inductive method.

That's why formal logic and theories of knowledge are taught at universities in advanced undergraduate courses.

It's an open question if induction results in universal certain knowledge, or if it just results in interpretation

As a scientist myself, I agree with Albert Einstein that scientific education should be required to include formal logic and philosopy of science, which Einstein credited with making him a better scientist.

 

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Formal logic entails far more than the scientific inductive method.

That's why formal logic and theories of knowledge are taught at universities in advanced undergraduate courses.

It's an open question if induction results in universal certain knowledge, or if it just results in interpretation

As a scientist myself, I agree with Albert Einstein that scientific education should be required to include formal logic and philosopy of science, which Einstein credited with making him a better scientist.

What is your area of science? That's really cool!

 

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What was the other class?

Just intro philosophy.

 

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Just ran across this blurb:

Philosophy is conducted and makes progress by way of exchanging arguments. Since they are the primary tool of their trade, philosophers better know a little something about what makes for good arguments! Logic, therefore, is essential to the practice of philosophy.

(Emphasis added)

Reference: Introduction to Philosophy, MATTHEW KNACHEL.
https://press.rebus.community/intro...ucted and makes,to the practice of philosophy.

 

[Cypress]

What is your area of science? That's really cool!

Geology and geophysics.

I spent 8 years training for a scientific career, and there was never any actual classwork or training in formal logic, which I believe would make a better scientist, and allow scientists to have a better grasp on the explanatory power of their theories, and on understanding what counts as a good explanation.

 

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Geology and geophysics.

Wow! That sounds really cool.

I spent 8 years training for a scientific career, and there was never any actual classwork or training in formal logic, which I believe would make a better scientist, and allow scientists to have a better grasp on the explanatory power of their theories, and on understanding what counts as a good explanation.

Regardless of the training or lack thereof it is still integral to the science. I agree with you 100% that it should be taught more.

 

[BidenPresident]

Just ran across this blurb:

(Emphasis added)

Reference: Introduction to Philosophy, MATTHEW KNACHEL.
https://press.rebus.community/intro...ucted and makes,to the practice of philosophy.

So? No one disputed that.

 

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So? No one disputed that.

Are you sure about that?

 

[BidenPresident]

Are you sure about that?

Yes.

 

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Yes.

What about these?

Philosophical arguments are rarely logical, because the basic context is itself almost never based in logic.

Philosophy does not reduce to logic.

No, logic is not the language of philosophy. Logic is just about proper inference, formal reasoning.

There you go.

 

[BidenPresident]

There I go, what? I think you are not very bright. Sorry.

 

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There I go, what? I think you are not very bright. Sorry.

Stop being so insulting. I'm growing tired of your nastiness.

 

[BidenPresident]

Stop being so insulting. I'm growing tired of your nastiness.

I am tired of your stupidity. You took two intro classes and you think you're an expert on all aspects of philosophy.

Philosophy uses logic. This is some big insight you have?!

 

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I am tired of your stupidity. You took two intro classes and you think you're an expert on all aspects of philosophy.

I never said I was an expert in anything! Why misrepresent my position just so you can insult me?

Philosophy uses logic. This is some big insight you have?!

Let's revisit the quote I provided earlier from the PHILOSOPHY TEXT BOOK: "Logic, therefore, is essential to the practice of philosophy."

 

[BidenPresident]

I never said I was an expert in anything! Why misrepresent my position just so you can insult me?



Let's revisit the quote I provided earlier from the PHILOSOPHY TEXT BOOK: "Logic, therefore, is essential to the practice of philosophy."

And grammar is essential to the practice of novel writing. So what.

 

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And grammar is essential to the practice of novel writing. So what.

I see you are not interested in a serious discussion but you are clearly playing some "troll game" here. Your behavior is starting to grow boring. I will, unfortunately, have to leave you to it as you don't seem interested in the discussion, you just want to insult people.

Thanks.

 

[BidenPresident]

I see you are not interested in a serious discussion but you are clearly playing some "troll game" here. Your behavior is starting to grow boring. I will, unfortunately, have to leave you to it as you don't seem interested in the discussion, you just want to insult people.

Thanks.

Bye.