How sad it must be for Trump supporters

Grumpy said:
I'm not defending Trump because he is just as bad as all the crooks in Washington. But if I'm not mistaken we have been lied to and mislead by the Washington elite for decades not just during the Trump years. So bitch about Trump all you want but he is no different that the crooks you all keep electing.
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Agreed that they all lie, but the dirty trump has taken it to the next level, X10... Hopefully we never have another Yuge mistake like this in the wht house..

It is really sad, the stuff he lies about in one average week would ruin most American politicians, but then he has been scrapping bottom since he got there..
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
Did you know that one president gave away top secret information to envoys of a hostile power, apparently on the spur of the moment, according to some officials?

But other officials said he didn't, and anyway he was entitled to, so that's okay. :)

https://www.reuters.com/article/US-USA-trump-russia-idUSKCN18B2MX
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??They're russians not hostile power:rolleyes:
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Tranquillus in Exile said:
Did you know that one president gave away top secret information to envoys of a hostile power, apparently on the spur of the moment, according to some officials?

But other officials said he didn't, and anyway he was entitled to, so that's okay. :)

https://www.reuters.com/article/US-USA-trump-russia-idUSKCN18B2MX
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Gee another he said she said news article. Let my know when the head of the FBI testifies before Congress and says Trump did it like he did with Hillary. It pisses me off to have to defend someone I don't like just to keep the record straight.
 
Bill said:
Agreed that they all lie, but the dirty trump has taken it to the next level, X10... Hopefully we never have another Yuge mistake like this in the wht house..

It is really sad, the stuff he lies about in one average week would ruin most American politicians, but then he has been scrapping bottom since he got there..
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Well Trump was the lesser of two evils. Hopefully we will have some decent candidates in 2020 but it looks like the Democrat party has been taken over by the radical left. So I'm not holding my breath.
 
Grumpy said:
Well Trump was the lesser of two evils. Hopefully we will have some decent candidates in 2020 but it looks like the Democrat party has been taken over by the radical left.
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Hopefully, but it will be a battle royal & w/ the evil one cheering it on & stirring the pot.....
 
Bill said:
Hopefully, but it will be a battle royal & w/ the evil one cheering it on & stirring the pot.....
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Trump will not have any effect on who is chosen to be the Democrat candidate. I fully expect a number of Republicans to challenge him for the nomination.
 
Grumpy said:
Trump will not have any effect on who is chosen to be the Democrat candidate. I fully expect a number of Republicans to challenge him for the nomination.
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I truly hope he is challenged.

I honestly don't see anyone yet, do you??
 
Grumpy said:
Gee another he said she said news article. Let my know when the head of the FBI testifies before Congress and says Trump did it like he did with Hillary.
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In his conversations with the Russian officials, Trump appeared to be boasting about his knowledge ... telling them he was briefed on “great intel every day”.

One official said: “He has no filter; it’s in one ear and out the mouth.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/US-USA-trump-russia-idUSKCN18B2MX


It's just the sort of damnfool thing Trump would do. But it's within his constitutional powers - lookit ME, I'm Prez! - so there's nothing illegal to investigate.
 
Tranquillus in Exile said:
In his conversations with the Russian officials, Trump appeared to be boasting about his knowledge ... telling them he was briefed on “great intel every day”.

One official said: “He has no filter; it’s in one ear and out the mouth.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/US-USA-trump-russia-idUSKCN18B2MX


It's just the sort of damnfool thing Trump would do. But it's within his constitutional powers - lookit ME, I'm Prez! - so there's nothing illegal to investigate.
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Which proves absolutely nothing.
 
Grumpy said:
John Kasich has shown interest and Jeff Flake, is a possible. I expect more as the year goes on. But that is just a guess.
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I forgot about Kaisich... He is old school gop, is there enough of that left in the party to get him the nom??

I think Flake is done, but IMHO he would be a very good choice..
 
Bill said:
I forgot about Kaisich... He is old school gop, is there enough of that left in the party to get him the nom??

I think Flake is done, but IMHO he would be a very good choice..
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Depends on how they stand on the issues.
 
Grumpy said:
I'm not defending Trump because he is just as bad as all the crooks in Washington. But if I'm not mistaken we have been lied to and mislead by the Washington elite for decades not just during the Trump years. So bitch about Trump all you want but he is no different that the crooks you all keep electing.
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Way different. He lies at a level no other politician has ever done. He has ensconced crooks and businessmen into his cabinet to fleece the system and gut the agencies. He has lost 40 percent of those he put in positions and has not bothered filling many more. Trump is off the scoreboard . No president has been this self serving and crooked, while proudly bragging about it. If you think Trump is like all our presidents, you must have stopped watching at Nixon.
 
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