How to counter right-wing armed groups in the United States

White Supremacist Extremists are the most dangerous terrorist threat in the US

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Dutch Uncle

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This is a January 21, 2021 article from Brookings noting the rise and the problems caused by WSE groups:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...right-wing-armed-groups-in-the-united-states/
How to counter right-wing armed groups in the United States
Right-wing armed groups won’t disappear after inauguration, even as they pose a bigger threat to U.S. democracy and rule of law than any organized crime group, and have killed more Americans in recent years than foreign terrorists. The threat of such groups and their political cooptation by Trump’s political supporters will persist long into the Biden administration. Countering this must be a high priority.

In a recent piece, Daniel Byman outlined the factors likely to shape white supremacist groups in 2021. Here, I lay out some steps to counter them and adjacent groups. I focus on right-wing groups because they currently threaten U.S. rule of law far more than left-wing armed groups, but many of these policy responses would apply to both.

Right-wing armed groups in the United States include a swirl of white supremacist, anti-immigrant, anti-federal-government, pro-gun-ownership, and survivalist groups who envision a coming civil war in the United States.
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DHS also recognizes that WSEs, specifically lone wolf attacks as our nation has seen over the past year, are the biggest terrorist threat facing our nation as identified in their 2020 report: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf
Ideologically motivated lone offenders and small groups pose the most
likely terrorist threat to the Homeland, with Domestic Violent Extremists
presenting the most persistent and lethal threat...

...Among DVEs, racially and ethnically motivated
violent extremists—specifically white supremacist
extremists (WSEs)—will remain the most persistent
and lethal threat in the Homeland...

...WSEs have demonstrated longstanding intent to
target racial and religious minorities, members
of the LGBTQ+ community, politicians, and those
they believe promote multi-culturalism and
globalization at the expense of the WSE identity.
Since 2018, they have conducted more lethal
attacks in the United States than any other DVE
movement...
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White supremacists and others on the radical Right like sovereign citizens, anti-tax nutters, and the like are nowhere near the biggest domestic threat to the US. The Progressive Left and radical Left have trotted out this canard since before the Clinton era where we got to see just how insane the radical Left is when it gets power. During the Clinton era, we saw a massive attempt to crackdown on the radical Right. This resulted in the Ruby Ridge fiasco, Waco, arrests of various fringe militia group members numbering in the dozens, and the like. Most of these arrests went nowhere, but the high profile handling of these cases in government and media stirred the radical Right to action resulting in things like the Oklahoma City bombing.

Left alone, the crazies on the radical Right are mostly a threat to each other. They rarely get together to do anything other than in the smallest numbers. Provoked, they can be very dangerous individually and can rack up serious body counts.

On the other hand, the radical Left is far more dangerous on a much larger scale. Radical Leftists like BLM and Antifa produced riots with thousands taking part. They trashed whole city centers, caused dozens of deaths, thousands of serious injuries, and billions in property damage. They wrecked the lives of tens of thousands, at a minimum. In power, they know no bounds and will do virtually anything to retain power.

The radical Right will never come to serious political power. The radical Left has come to serious political power repeatedly during the last century. The results of their coming to power has included world wars, economic privation for billions, the deaths of as many as 100 million--at least--can be laid at their feet. There is no comparison between the radical Right where two or three guys--at most--do some act of violence killing maybe tens of people, with the radical Left destroying whole nations and killing millions.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
White supremacists and others on the radical Right like sovereign citizens, anti-tax nutters, and the like are nowhere near the biggest domestic threat to the US. The Progressive Left and radical Left have trotted out this canard since before the Clinton era where we got to see just how insane the radical Left is when it gets power. During the Clinton era, we saw a massive attempt to crackdown on the radical Right. This resulted in the Ruby Ridge fiasco, Waco, arrests of various fringe militia group members numbering in the dozens, and the like. Most of these arrests went nowhere, but the high profile handling of these cases in government and media stirred the radical Right to action resulting in things like the Oklahoma City bombing.

Left alone, the crazies on the radical Right are mostly a threat to each other. They rarely get together to do anything other than in the smallest numbers. Provoked, they can be very dangerous individually and can rack up serious body counts.

On the other hand, the radical Left is far more dangerous on a much larger scale. Radical Leftists like BLM and Antifa produced riots with thousands taking part. They trashed whole city centers, caused dozens of deaths, thousands of serious injuries, and billions in property damage. They wrecked the lives of tens of thousands, at a minimum. In power, they know no bounds and will do virtually anything to retain power.

The radical Right will never come to serious political power. The radical Left has come to serious political power repeatedly during the last century. The results of their coming to power has included world wars, economic privation for billions, the deaths of as many as 100 million--at least--can be laid at their feet. There is no comparison between the radical Right where two or three guys--at most--do some act of violence killing maybe tens of people, with the radical Left destroying whole nations and killing millions.
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Not according to Trump appointed Chris Wrey Director of the FBI!

He told Congress that the single most threat to the USA is now domestic terrorism caused by EXTREME RIGHT WING SUPREMACIST ORGANIZATIONS!
 
Dutch Uncle said:
This is a January 21, 2021 article from Brookings noting the rise and the problems caused by WSE groups:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...right-wing-armed-groups-in-the-united-states/
How to counter right-wing armed groups in the United States


DHS also recognizes that WSEs, specifically lone wolf attacks as our nation has seen over the past year, are the biggest terrorist threat facing our nation as identified in their 2020 report: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf
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quit your bullshit, deep state dum dum.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
This is a January 21, 2021 article from Brookings noting the rise and the problems caused by WSE groups:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...right-wing-armed-groups-in-the-united-states/
How to counter right-wing armed groups in the United States


DHS also recognizes that WSEs, specifically lone wolf attacks as our nation has seen over the past year, are the biggest terrorist threat facing our nation as identified in their 2020 report: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf
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You deal with them by being armed yourself and ready to deal with them if needed
 
The most dangerous threat to peace in America is trying to go forward with the United States.

People who genuinely loathe each other should never be forced to share a government.
Nothing good will come of it.
Only worsening dystopia awaits, and we're pretty fucked up already.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Not according to Trump appointed Chris Wrey Director of the FBI!

He told Congress that the single most threat to the USA is now domestic terrorism caused by EXTREME RIGHT WING SUPREMACIST ORGANIZATIONS!
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So? A politician tells you something and it's supposed to be the absolute truth...
 
Celticguy said:
More often than not its just the opposite. Take the Inflation Reduction Act or the Affordable Healthcare Act or the Build Back Better act or the Great Republic act.
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That was my point. Just because the head of the FBI says something doesn't automatically make it true, factual, or valid.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
This is a January 21, 2021 article from Brookings noting the rise and the problems caused by WSE groups:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...right-wing-armed-groups-in-the-united-states/
How to counter right-wing armed groups in the United States


DHS also recognizes that WSEs, specifically lone wolf attacks as our nation has seen over the past year, are the biggest terrorist threat facing our nation as identified in their 2020 report: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf
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The FBI needs to put moles and informants into these right-wing groups?!! But it's very little law enforcement can do against lone wolf attacks?!! Trump has done more damaged to this country, than any other person in our history?!!
 
Dutch Uncle said:
This is a January 21, 2021 article from Brookings noting the rise and the problems caused by WSE groups:

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/orde...right-wing-armed-groups-in-the-united-states/
How to counter right-wing armed groups in the United States


DHS also recognizes that WSEs, specifically lone wolf attacks as our nation has seen over the past year, are the biggest terrorist threat facing our nation as identified in their 2020 report: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/2020_10_06_homeland-threat-assessment.pdf
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It's not just ME who agrees. It's every intelligence agency in the US. The biggest threat is white supremacy violence. Thanks trump and his voters.
 
LurchAddams said:
It's not just ME who agrees. It's every intelligence agency in the US. The biggest threat is white supremacy violence. Thanks trump and his voters.
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Agreed on the threat. What are the casual factors and the solutions for problems?

Divisiveness isn't working out for the nation. Tolerance is better.
 
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