Hugo Chavez Defeats Devil -- Again
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ProfDanoVonManough
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Amazing.
You know I used to wonder when I was younger how a philosophy of leftism, that claims to be so close to humanity and people could ever tolerate and praise the icons of extreme leftism like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc... who were responsible for more death via political changes than any other thing.
Then you look at this discussion over Chavez and if you're honest you slowly see that the left are willing to tolerate any amount of corruption, crime, poverty and totalianarism so long as their ideals are represented by the person doing it.
Bush may well have fucked up in Iraq, no he DID fuck up in Iraq - but to try and pretend that Bush's fuckups are the equal of someone like Chavez who is ACTIVELY responsible for the actions his government has done in locking up the opposition, abolishing checks and balances and forgoing property rights is the hallmark of someone looking to forgo their own conscience in facing their ideologies own demons...
You know I used to wonder when I was younger how a philosophy of leftism, that claims to be so close to humanity and people could ever tolerate and praise the icons of extreme leftism like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc... who were responsible for more death via political changes than any other thing.
Then you look at this discussion over Chavez and if you're honest you slowly see that the left are willing to tolerate any amount of corruption, crime, poverty and totalianarism so long as their ideals are represented by the person doing it.
Bush may well have fucked up in Iraq, no he DID fuck up in Iraq - but to try and pretend that Bush's fuckups are the equal of someone like Chavez who is ACTIVELY responsible for the actions his government has done in locking up the opposition, abolishing checks and balances and forgoing property rights is the hallmark of someone looking to forgo their own conscience in facing their ideologies own demons...
Bush Records:
Bush locking up the opposition
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/26/AR2005092600143.html
"About 370 antiwar demonstrators were arrested yesterday after planting themselves on the sidewalk in front of the White House"
Abolishing Checks and Balances:
"The bottom line is that President Bush and Attorney General Ashcroft are attempting to suspend the 'Great Writ' of habeas corpus"
(from a source you'll trust)
http://www.cato.org/new/06-02/06-20-02r.html
At least Chavez doesn't have thousands of deaths on his hands and didn't illegally invade a foreign country under false pretenses.
Lastly, in regards to seizing private property, was it for public works or for private expansion?
Battleborne
Terminator
Hummm....
Hugo slayer of the anti-Christ...what a joke Venezuela is...the forefront runner in the 'sex slave trade' market( No wonder the little Dictator of Iran loves him!)...Aruba ring a bell...the missing young lady not too long ago!
Not to forget the Drug Market I think hugo smokes way too much of the profits!
Hugo slayer of the anti-Christ...what a joke Venezuela is...the forefront runner in the 'sex slave trade' market( No wonder the little Dictator of Iran loves him!)...Aruba ring a bell...the missing young lady not too long ago!
Not to forget the Drug Market I think hugo smokes way too much of the profits!
#1) Are you alleging that Natalie wasn't killed but rather she's being traded on the s ex slave market? If you have information, I'd suggest you take it to the authorities.
#2) smokes what exactly?
Battleborne
Terminator
First and foremost....
I did several assessments on the sex slave trade in Venezuela and the FBI is well aware of the possibility of Natalie being sent to Venezuela...It is difficult to do a investigation in Venezuela when the Dictator is the leader of this cult and hates the USA!
#2...it was sarcasm refering to another one of there exports...'Cocaine'
I did several assessments on the sex slave trade in Venezuela and the FBI is well aware of the possibility of Natalie being sent to Venezuela...It is difficult to do a investigation in Venezuela when the Dictator is the leader of this cult and hates the USA!
#2...it was sarcasm refering to another one of there exports...'Cocaine'
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Battleborne
Terminator
????
He visited Malaysia as well as Indonesia...one for talks on the War on Terror and the other on the Tsunami....what would you like me to comment on...as if this has anything to do with Hugo and his anti-US hate speech!
He visited Malaysia as well as Indonesia...one for talks on the War on Terror and the other on the Tsunami....what would you like me to comment on...as if this has anything to do with Hugo and his anti-US hate speech!
Battleborne
Terminator
He certainly did...
Wheras Hugo is a participant...and GW has the Feds working non stop on this trade...lotsa investigations!
Well you were running down Hugo with sex trade talk..so.....headline" Bush ignores underage sex trade in SE Asia"
Wheras Hugo is a participant...and GW has the Feds working non stop on this trade...lotsa investigations!
maineman
Banned
Maine is getting some of that heating oil. Good stuff... that's his only real impact on MY state. I certainly don't "love" the guy...and I understand his global politicking.... even if I don't particularly appreciate his choices of allies....I do agree with him that bush is a prick, however.
uscitizen
Villified User
I am not taking up for Hugo, but I understand 2 main points.
1. He has had US politicos and religious leaders call for his assination.
2. The oil companies hate him, therefore the current US govt hates him.
I believe he is also elected by a fairly democratic method as well ?
1. He has had US politicos and religious leaders call for his assination.
2. The oil companies hate him, therefore the current US govt hates him.
I believe he is also elected by a fairly democratic method as well ?
Gaffer
Sanctimonious Prick
saddam was elected by a democratic method as well.
chevez is a commie dictator so you libs will love him to death. He's looking to replace your buddy castro as the chief tyrant in the nieghborhood.
Who knows how many mass graves he's filled already. It's a closed society so until he's taken down we won't know.
chevez is a commie dictator so you libs will love him to death. He's looking to replace your buddy castro as the chief tyrant in the nieghborhood.
Who knows how many mass graves he's filled already. It's a closed society so until he's taken down we won't know.
uscitizen
Villified User
Yeah who knows how many 
But we sure can speculate huh ?
And nope I don't care much for the guy, but I do understand why he does not like us.
And other than the one event, what has Castro done to us ?
And no I don't like him either.
Unlike some I understand that our country messes up bad sometimes and our beacon of democracy and freedom flickers from time to time....
But we sure can speculate huh ?
And nope I don't care much for the guy, but I do understand why he does not like us.
And other than the one event, what has Castro done to us ?
And no I don't like him either.
Unlike some I understand that our country messes up bad sometimes and our beacon of democracy and freedom flickers from time to time....
Who knows how many mass graves he's filled already. It's a closed society so until he's taken down we won't know.
LOL
What wingnut publication are you reading? I've traveled freely in venezuela. The people there love americans. Chavez hates YOUR president and his policies. He doesn't hate America. Bush is not America.
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
That would probably depend on what you mean by "type of government." Corrupt and venal? No, probably not. Left leaning and committed to providing social services? Yes, almost certainly.
OrnotBitwise
Watermelon
I have family in Venezuela right now. Their experience hasn't been very pleasant but they work for an American oil company and that doesn't make them very popular with the locals. Also, said company totally screwed them over: they've had more problems with their American employers than with Venezuelans.