I am new but not new?

[Ross Dolan]

I think that's a fair response. I think that's enough to establish indifference as a reason in addition to hatred/anger.

So do I...which is why I offered it.

Violence and self defense are two different things (even though they both involve the use of force).

Look...if an instance of self-defense involved elements of violence...IT IS VIOLENCE.

You apparently are locked in and probably will not acknowledge that...but that is your problem, not mine. Happens a lot when in a discussion with MAGA people.

You apparently suppose that because I disagree with Trump and his policies, I must hate him.

I do not. I do not hate anyone. I just don't.

Laugh if you want to. I suspect that is because you cannot conceive of disagreeing with someone and yet still not hating him/her.

I do not hate Trump despite the fact that I disagree with him on many things...and consider him to be a clueless, classless individuals. If anything, I pity him. He must have been raised in a way to make him like that.

Unfortunate.

Just as it is that you were raised to think the things you do.

Not at all. You do get things right sometimes.

I often get things right...and when I am wrong, I almost always acknowledge that I am wrong and apologize.

You, apparently.

I most assuredly do not. But if it makes your life more livable to think I do...go for it.

Did you see the comma before the word 'and'? Those are two separate imperative clauses:

• Clause 1: "Just don't incite violence."
• Clause 2: "Condemn the people who DO incite violence."

Take the sentence to a grammarian at a local university...and ask his/her opinion. The sentence structure is poor...and I am pretty sure that is what you will be told.

 

[Into the Night]

So do I...which is why I offered it.



Look...if an instance of self-defense involved elements of violence...IT IS VIOLENCE.

By definition. It also justified violence. Not all acts of self defense have to be violent. Compositional error fallacy.

You apparently are locked in and probably will not acknowledge that...but that is your problem, not mine. Happens a lot when in a discussion with MAGA people.

MAGA isn't a person, Doofan.

You apparently suppose that because I disagree with Trump and his policies, I must hate him.

You have stated you hate him.

I do not. I do not hate anyone. I just don't.

You have stated you hate him.

Laugh if you want to. I suspect that is because you cannot conceive of disagreeing with someone and yet still not hating him/her.

You have stated you hate him.

I do not hate Trump despite the fact that I disagree with him on many things...and consider him to be a clueless, classless individuals. If anything, I pity him. He must have been raised in a way to make him like that.

Mott and Bailey fallacy.

Unfortunate.

Just as it is that you were raised to think the things you do.



I often get things right...and when I am wrong, I almost always acknowledge that I am wrong and apologize.

No, you don't.

I most assuredly do not. But if it makes your life more livable to think I do...go for it.

Take the sentence to a grammarian at a local university...and ask his/her opinion. The sentence structure is poor...and I am pretty sure that is what you will be told.

Courtier fallacy.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

Apparently you've already forgotten the whole invention of the Tea Party and why -- because of Obama. It's slipped your mind completely that proto-MAGATs were calling for his impeachment and removal before he was even sworn in. You must have not seen the videos and photos of Tea Party rallies with signs saying "We came unarmed -- this time" -- and the rallies at which they WERE armed. You forgot all about the #TangerineTyrant and his bullshit about Obama's birth certificate, didn't you? That wasn't racist or anything, right?

Arby is widely known as borderline retarded from a combination of his births circumstance and his upbringing around a gun nut . Arby was taught the victim mentality and white grievance

 

[Matt Dillon]

So do I...which is why I offered it.



Look...if an instance of self-defense involved elements of violence...IT IS VIOLENCE.

You apparently are locked in and probably will not acknowledge that...but that is your problem, not mine. Happens a lot when in a discussion with MAGA people.

You apparently suppose that because I disagree with Trump and his policies, I must hate him.

I do not. I do not hate anyone. I just don't.

Laugh if you want to. I suspect that is because you cannot conceive of disagreeing with someone and yet still not hating him/her.

I do not hate Trump despite the fact that I disagree with him on many things...and consider him to be a clueless, classless individuals. If anything, I pity him. He must have been raised in a way to make him like that.

Unfortunate.

Just as it is that you were raised to think the things you do.



I often get things right...and when I am wrong, I almost always acknowledge that I am wrong and apologize.



I most assuredly do not. But if it makes your life more livable to think I do...go for it.

Take the sentence to a grammarian at a local university...and ask his/her opinion. The sentence structure is poor...and I am pretty sure that is what you will be told.

^Your posts suggest otherwise, Dipshit. You hate Trump with every post you make.

 

[Ross Dolan]

^Your posts suggest otherwise,

Only to a fucking moron.

Dipshit.

That's Mr. Dipshit to you, Asshole.

You hate Trump with every post you make.

No, I do not. I despise what Trump is doing to our Republic and to the world in general.

I do not hate Trump nor anyone else. You can either accept that or FUCK YOU. Your choice.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Arby is widely known as borderline retarded from a combination of his births circumstance and his upbringing around a gun nut . Arby was taught the victim mentality and white grievance

I don't know about any of that. I just know RB seems to always have a chip on his shoulder and reads into my posts things that are not there. The above is a good example. He segued into me supposedly calling him a racist when I said that Trump's birther crap regarding Obama's birth certificate was racist. It is, no doubt about it. John McCain, who Trump also disparaged, was not born in the U.S. but Trump didn't question *his* citizenship.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Only to a fucking moron.



That's Mr. Dipshit to you, Asshole.



No, I do not. I despise what Trump is doing to our Republic and to the world in general.

I do not hate Trump nor anyone else. You can either accept that or FUCK YOU. Your choice.

I have that Reichtard on ignore so am just getting one side of this. Have you noticed that MAGATs often engage in classic projection? Their frequent use of the word "hate" applied to non-Trumpanzees is a good example of that. Even the slightest disagreement with the #TangerineTyrant = hate to them. In reality, they appear to hate deeply and have no problems expressing that.

 

[Ross Dolan]

I have that Reichtard on ignore so am just getting one side of this. Have you noticed that MAGATs often engage in classic projection? Their frequent use of the word "hate" applied to non-Trumpanzees is a good example of that. Even the slightest disagreement with the #TangerineTyrant = hate to them. In reality, they appear to hate deeply and have no problems expressing that.

I have come to the conclusion that their abundant HATE is the answer to the question, "Why do you support that disgusting man, Trump?"

I suspect that the reason they project that HATE is to make themselves feel reasonable. (They are not!)

I actually like many of them...would thoroughly enjoy meeting them...having a beer or coffee with them.

Unfortunately, way too Americans seems to have lost their way.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

I have come to the conclusion that their abundant HATE is the answer to the question, "Why do you support that disgusting man, Trump?"

I suspect that the reason they project that HATE is to make themselves feel reasonable. (They are not!)

I actually like many of them...would thoroughly enjoy meeting them...having a beer or coffee with them.

Unfortunately, way too Americans seems to have lost their way.

Yep. They ignore or actively support fascism now. If Clinton, Obama, or Biden had done half the stuff Trump has done just since January, they'd be marching in the streets waving their flags and their bang-bangs and screaming about dictators and the Constitution.

 

[martin]

Well, I’m about sick and tired of those other places like Bluesky, Twitter (X), Facebook, and all the rest. Nothing but vacuums and empty sounding boards. Folks telling each other what they already know — and don’t give a damn about anyway. Nobody’s really talking, just waiting for their turn to hear their own voice bounce back. The minute you try to have a real conversation, or heaven forbid, an argument, they shut you down. Everyone’s locked in their little ideologies, shuffling through life in that one-note, zombie-world mindset. I need something more — something where people are alive, kicking, and still human, not just bots and I'm hopin it's here. We'll see.

"That hope that springs eternal in the human breast"

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Thanks, I reckon. Hmm Spetch. Never heard of em and no I am not a Canadian nor am I in Canada. I am in Montana, and I am from Kansas.

you a dispensationalist, father Abraham?

 

[RB 60]

It must be painful, carrying that 200 lb chip on your shoulder constantly. I did not call you racist; I merely pointed out that Trump's birther bullshit was/is racist. The fact that you instantly jump to that conclusion though tells me that you are very sensitive about being labeled as racist. Why is that?

It's interesting also that you are outraged about citizens gathering to protest things they disagree with. PEACEFUL protests, I will add, like the recent and upcoming No Kings protests. Why is that? Didn't your dad fight in WWII to preserve our right to speak out against fascism, tyranny, war, armed and masked gorillas grabbing people off the streets based on their appearance? I know that my uncle and father-in-law did. Both would be appalled at what the fat bloated idiot you all put in our WH is doing. Why aren't you?

You and Miss Supermoderator both called me racist simply because I voted for Trump the first time.. Don't try and lie out of it.
I'm not a fan of being called something I'm not.

Not outraged if they are peaceful. How many have not been peaceful?
Myself. I think protests are silly. My father and I actually attended one
back when Clinton signed his "Assault Weapon Ban." We wound up
visiting all the monuments in DC. That was the last protest I, or he, ever
attended. It was rather boring and non-eventful. Lots of people talking
about target shooting and reloading. Hell, you'd have thought it was
just a gathering of a gun enthusiasts bullshit session. Yes, my father
quit school to fight in WWII because this country was attacked. How
many kids would do that today? Why do you think it's OK for people
to come here illegally? Oh, and my father would be appalled when that
incompetent Biden, or that idiot Harris was elected. Bank on it...

 

[RB 60]

Maybe because his real father wasn't a WWII hero fighting fascism, but a low-life criminal whose life ended badly???

Most MAGAts are selfish, immature, low IQ and poorly educated. They are so weak that they blame others for the way their lives turned which is an excuse for them to hate Americans and steal from them. They are evil because they choose to follow evil just like their Orange God.

So now you attack my father, just like you attacked my mother when you first appeared here? You pathetic coward.

I'd say you are speaking of yourself when you say you "blame others for the way their lives turned which is an excuse for them to hate Americans and steal from them." You aren't evil. You're too cowardly. And, you cannot legally own a firearm. That is a good thing...

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

You and Miss Supermoderator both called me racist simply because I voted for Trump the first time.. Don't try and lie out of it.
I'm not a fan of being called something I'm not.

Not outraged if they are peaceful. How many have not been peaceful?
Myself. I think protests are silly. My father and I actually attended one
back when Clinton signed his "Assault Weapon Ban." We wound up
visiting all the monuments in DC. That was the last protest I, or he, ever
attended. It was rather boring and non-eventful. Lots of people talking
about target shooting and reloading. Hell, you'd have thought it was
just a gathering of a gun enthusiasts bullshit session. Yes, my father
quit school to fight in WWII because this country was attacked. How
many kids would do that today? Why do you think it's OK for people
to come here illegally? Oh, and my father would be appalled when that
incompetent Biden, or that idiot Harris was elected. Bank on it...

So protests are only not silly if they are about something you support. Go figure.

 

[RB 60]

So protests are only not silly if they are about something you support. Go figure.

Yep. I thought it was silly. That's why I never attended another one.

 

[gfm7175]

Look...if an instance of self-defense involved elements of violence...IT IS VIOLENCE.

Yes, violence is violence... but not all self-defense is violence, and not all force is violence.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Yes, violence is violence... but not all self-defense is violence, and not all force is violence.

Why are you telling me that. I have not suggested that every instance of self-defense is violence.

But I was asked for some sort of activity that was violence that was not anger (or whatever the shit it was)...and I said that self-defense can involve violence.

And I agree. Not all force is violence. Whacking off involves some force...NOT VIOLENCE. Taking a shit when constipated is often force...NOT VIOLENCE.

Can we get past this now.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Has not been seen since Sat Morining.

Almost no one sticks around this internet backwater for long.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I’ve been around a lot of forums over the past twenty years, and to tell you the truth, I can’t remember if I’ve been part of this one before or not — time’ll tell. Either way, hello to everyone here. Glad to be back if I am, and if not, happy to meet ya.

Welcome.

It's pretty rough and tumble around here, hope you have a thick hide.

 

[Uncensored2008]

There are worst offenders such as @Truth Detector, @Into the Night, @Lionfish and others when it comes to repeated trolling and meme posting.

Then there is the Douche Duck and his myriad of socks.. My advice to newbies is put "Dutch Uncle" or whatever name he is using this month on ignore day 1.