"I Hate All Iranians"

Disrespect from the morally crippled is, I suppose, a form of flattery. :p

You continue to cling to this self-serving, bankrupt notion that there's some deep moral distinction between dropping bombs that you KNOW perfectly well will result in civilian casualties, on the one hand, and blowing one's self up in a crowded square, on the other. In fact, the two acts require exactly the same mentality: the willingness to accept the deaths of innocents in pursuit of some "higher" cause.

And of the two, the latter requires more courage.

Who's worse, the guy who sits in a cockpit and fires off a missile that hits a home with innocent civilians in it and then flies back to his base for high fives or the guy who sacrifices himself for his religion and, in his own mind, his people by blowing himself up in a market? Frankly, there's little to choose between them and I'm very leery of anyone who sees such a distinction.

Look, all I'm saying is that one can exhibit bravery even in pursuit of a wrongheaded cause. Calling the hijackers cowardly is just petty and counter-productive. They can be wrong, even criminal, and still brave enough.

Again, it is not an act of bravery to deliberately kill innocent people. No matter how great you think your cause is. If that pilot deliberately targeted a civilian home and started acting as you described, that pilot would also be a coward. However, if that pilot went after a military target and civilians were killed in the process, THAT is entirely different.

If you cannot see the difference in intent.... deliberately targeting military targets and deliberately targeting civilians... then you are delusional. Yes, in war you know that civilians will be killed in the process, but you DO NOT DELIBERATELY TARGET THEM. PERIOD.
 
You just won't be happy until SF's head explodes, will you? :)
What? Who, me? Would I do that? You must have me confused with someone who enjoys tormenting his food.

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Again, it is not an act of bravery to deliberately kill innocent people. No matter how great you think your cause is. If that pilot deliberately targeted a civilian home and started acting as you described, that pilot would also be a coward.

No, he/she would be a criminal. Not a coward. Killing civilians is a crime. Not an act of cowardice. You've been listening to Hannity.

If you cannot see the difference in intent.... deliberately targeting military targets and deliberately targeting civilians... then you are delusional. Yes, in war you know that civilians will be killed in the process, but you DO NOT DELIBERATELY TARGET THEM. PERIOD.

Don't be naive, SF. We don't just go after "military" targets. When we invaded iraq, we intentially bombed power plants, government buildings, infrastructure, and power grids. Killing many civilians in the process.

By your standards, almost all of Al Qaeda's targets have been legitimate: most of their attacks on the United States have been against military targets, or US Government facilities.
 
Orno,Cippie,elblacko,and darla .........

Y'all are just nuts...pure and simple...you equate Suicide bombers to just doing their God given right to kill,maim,rape and pillage under the banner of being freedom fighters...You attack soldiers who are actually doing their job and do their best to minimize collateral damage as being equal...are you for real or just talking under the influence of controlled substances?


Y'all claim there is a better way to stop terrorism ..."through diplomacy"... and then fail to actually go to these countries to show all of us idiots(as you love to refer to us) how your way would work! It won't... you know it and so do we...You are so afraid of the enemy that you would rather go like sheep to the gas chambers rather then fight like a man or woman...end of story!
 
Y'all are just nuts...pure and simple...you equate Suicide bombers to just doing their God given right to kill,maim,rape and pillage under the banner of being freedom fighters...You attack soldiers who are actually doing their job and do their best to minimize collateral damage as being equal...are you for real or just talking under the influence of controlled substances?


Y'all claim there is a better way to stop terrorism ..."through diplomacy"... and then fail to actually go to these countries to show all of us idiots(as you love to refer to us) how your way would work! It won't... you know it and so do we...You are so afraid of the enemy that you would rather go like sheep to the gas chambers rather then fight like a man or woman...end of story!
I can't speak for anyone else but I'm quite serious. Oh, I'm overstating a bit just to tweak SF's tail, naturally, but my basic premise is as stated. Unlike you, I don't see any fundamental difference between soldiers "just doing their job" -- when that job is dropping bombs in areas where they know with certainty that innocent civilians will be killed -- and a suicide bomber "just doing God's work" by blowing up innocent people in a market place. Either way, the soldier/freedom-fighter/terrorist has decided that killing a certain number of innocent people is justified because of some "higher" cause.

Generally, it's fucking bullshit, but that's what they seem to believe.
 
And elsewhere in Iran . . .

Our nation's gay leaders pronounced themselves "surprised" at Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's open admission that the long-rumored "gay gap" is real. CIA sources have been saying privately for some time that advanced satellite imaging has revealed traces of gays in the area around Tehran, but other pundits were skeptical. "The idea that gays have a different heat signature is an unproven hypothesis," said spokesperson Leslie Tracy.

Now, in the wake of Ahmadinejad's candid admission, a team of gay proselytizers is being formed in a humanitarian effort to bring Iran up to First World standards. "Never let it be said," said Col. Tracy Leslie of the Revolutionary Gay Army, "that America sat idly by while another nation suffered through a decadeslong gay drought."
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/02/DDBHSGBVP.DTL
 
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