I hope the Supreme Court changed the clear meaning of the 14th on birthright citizenship…

Earl said:
Indeed...their motivation is votes and power, not altruism.

Altruism, in simple terms, is about acting to help others without expecting anything in return. It's about putting someone else's well-being before your own, often driven by empathy or a desire to make a difference. Think of it as kindness, generosity, and selflessness in action.
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Yes. These sociopaths have no real clue about any of that. They're just commie indoctrinated poseurs.
 
FastLane said:
Yes in Elk V Wilkins!

The law upon the question before us has been well stated by Judge Deady in the District Court of the United States for the District of Oregon. In giving judgment against the plaintiff in a case resembling the case at bar, he said:

"Being born a member of 'an independent political community' -- the Chinook -- he was not born subject to the jurisdiction of the United States -- not born in its allegiance."
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That is different, there were specific laws in place exempting indigenous Americans from US jurisdiction. Read the case.
 
Teflon Don said:
If the Constitution were clear then why need the Court?

what will you do if the court rules against you on the 14th? Will you cry?

BTW you never answered the question. If the 14th was meant to apply to anyone born here then why did it take so long to make Injuns citizens?
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Because Trump is choosing to ignore it. He is not upholding the Constitution. He is challenging it. He wants powers not granted to the president. The 14th is the basis of the American economy. More workers, more ideas come here and take root.
There are clear procedures spelled out for changing the Constitution and amendments. Trump is trying to bypass them. He does what he wants and defies you to stop him.
 
FastLane said:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/constitutional.aspx#:~:text=As the final arbiter of,and interpreter of the Constitution.

EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW"-These words, written above the main entrance to the Supreme Court Building, express the ultimate responsibility of the Supreme Court of the United States. The Court is the highest tribunal in the Nation for all cases and controversies arising under the Constitution or the laws of the United States. As the final arbiter of the law, the Court is charged with ensuring the American people the promise of equal justice under law and, thereby, also functions as guardian and interpreter of the Constitution.
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The Supreme Court h as no authority to interpret the Constitution, or to change it. See Article III to see what the Supreme Court has authority to do. NO COURT has any authority over a constitution that created it!
 
Nordberg said:
Because Trump is choosing to ignore it. He is not upholding the Constitution.
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Blatant lie. You are describing yourself. DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE CONSTITUTION YOU DESPISE!
Nordberg said:
He is challenging it. He wants powers not granted to the president.
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President Trump has full authority over the executive branch of government, Sybil.
Nordberg said:
The 14th is the basis of the American economy.
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The 14th amendment does not mention economy and the word 'economy' does not exist anywhere in the Constitution, Sybil.
Nordberg said:
More workers, more ideas come here and take root.
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Illegal aliens are ILLEGAL, Sybil. They are immediately subject to deportation.
Committing crimes is not 'workers',
Nordberg said:
There are clear procedures spelled out for changing the Constitution and amendments. Trump is trying to bypass them. He does what he wants and defies you to stop him.
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Trump has not violated any part of the Constitution. DON'T TRY TO HIDE BEHIND THE DOCUMENT YOU DESPISE!
 
Jarod said:
Sure, but if we are going to start changing the clear meaning of the Constitution.
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It doesn’t make a difference, their Originalism/Textualism rationale is pure bullshit, the Constitution has little to do with any of their decisions

Think of Thomas’s opening question in the immunity fiasco, he highlighted that no where in the Constitution does it state that a President was immune, that the Constitution even implied the opposite, but then he turned around and voted to grant immunity.

Scalia in the Heller case is the same, skipping over the prefatory clause, their rhetoric is pure bullshit, they care less about the Constitution or it’s meaning
 
Into the Night said:
The Supreme Court h as no authority to interpret the Constitution, or to change it. See Article III to see what the Supreme Court has authority to do. NO COURT has any authority over a constitution that created it!
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Appears someone missed the Marbury vs Madison case in history class, and the numerous cases since that which established Judicial Review as precedent law

Of course now he is going to regurgitate the antiquated constructionist understanding of the document as his rationale only to turn to his Google list of fallacies when asked then how such as the right to privacy is an established norm today
 
archives said:
Appears someone missed the Marbury vs Madison case in history class, and the numerous cases since that which established Judicial Review as precedent law

Of course now he is going to regurgitate the antiquated constructionist understanding of the document as his rationale only to turn to his Google list of fallacies when asked then how such as the right to privacy is an established norm today
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And study of the English Magna Charta.
 
Jarod said:
That is different, there were specific laws in place exempting indigenous Americans from US jurisdiction. Read the case.
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So El Salvadorans are US citizens now? Don't our laws exclude El Salvadorans just like native Americans were excluded prior to 1924. Elk was excluded because his parents were excluded as citizens and they and he owed allegiance to another political community.
 
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