I Thought There Were More People On Welfare?

NOVA said:
I'll say it....education should NOT be guaranteed to everyone.....

education should be AVAILABLE to everyone that wants it....
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Good approach, that is why there are other countries that will over take us because we are dumbing down our population by making higher education only available to those who can afford it. Public education is oNe of the tings that advanced the USA at one time, we are now falling behind.
 
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Howey said:
Whom?
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NEW YORK'S DEMOCRATIC SENATOR, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, denounces the welfare reform bill as "the most brutal act of social policy since Reconstruction." The head of the National Urban League, Hugh Price, declares angrily that "Washington has decided to end the War on Poverty and begin a war on children." Contempt curling his lip, Brooklyn Representative Charles Rangel says, "My president will boldly throw one million into poverty." Marian Wright Edelman, chairman of the Children's Defense Fund, warns that if Bill Clinton signs this bill, it "will leave a moral blot on his presidency and our nation."

In the weekend papers, one columnist describes the new welfare reform law as "mandated starvation." Another quotes with approval a welfare lobbyist's prediction that Clinton "is going to fry in hell for this." In the Philadelphia Inquirer, cartoonist Tony Auth sketches "welfare kids" being sacrificed before the altar of "reelection."

http://www.jeffjacoby.com/8815/a-welfare-catastrophe-no-it-a-modest-reform
 
Rana said:
Good approach, that is why there are other countries that will over take us because we are dumbing down our population by making higher education only available to those who can afford it. Public education is oNe of the tings that advanced the USA at one time, we are now falling behind.
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Higher education is becoming a joke in the US and the world is starting to realize it....

when 80% of he kids in NY getting high school diplomas don't even deserve them let alone going to college....

Our schools have become nothing more than breeding grounds for future liberal Democrat voters....
 
Sycamore said:
This is the problem we face. Brainwashed loons desperately clinging to capitalism, even as it takes on water. The ship is sinking, but they won't admit it - those who do blame it on an economic system that's never existed in the US - and keep on screaming the mantras of their youth. Face it Dixie, capitalism no longer works.
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You are full of shit, no one is "desperately clinging" to a system that has historically created more wealth and prosperity for more people than anything mankind has ever tried. Such a thing doesn't need to be desperately clung to, unless you're a goddamn moron.

The ONLY way "the ship is sinking" with regard to capitalism, is how capitalism is being eroded by retard Socialists who don't get it. You keep on bashing and trashing "the rich" when you should be kissing their ass, because they are the only ones who can save us. You keep trying to destroy the only fucking thing in the world that can change our situation for the better, and you are doing this so you can have a system that has been a disaster everywhere it has been tried, and usually ends up with mass numbers of people being lined up at an open ditch and executed. No one can talk to you anymore, you've become so brainwashed, it is pointless to try and have a reasonable conversation based on fact. Because some dope-smoking professor lamented on how great Socialism is, that's all the fuck you need.
 
Yes, capitalism sure has created wealth, but primarily in the upper classes. The rest have been gotten little, save an assault by both these classes and the government they control. But I suppose that's fine, because the only rich can save us from the harm they caused.:rolleyes:

When you lot are left behind by a generation forced to discard our oppressors, don't come asking for asylum.
 
NOVA said:
Higher education is becoming a joke in the US and the world is starting to realize it....

when 80% of he kids in NY getting high school diplomas don't even deserve them let alone going to college....

Our schools have become nothing more than breeding grounds for future liberal Democrat voters....
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It is because education as been vilified by the right and the stars by which teachers teach has been drastically changed.

I am all for states controlling education, but there needs to be federal standards on what is taught, but that is not this thread is about.

Education brings people out of welfare, even if it is vocational colleges.
 
Rana said:
It is because education as been vilified by the right and the stars by which teachers teach has been drastically changed.

I am all for states controlling education, but there needs to be federal standards on what is taught, but that is not this thread is about.

Education brings people out of welfare, even if it is vocational colleges.
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Vilifying teachers makes the kids stupid, huh ?.....So I guess all we have to do is worship them and the kids will get smart.....

Your stupidity shows your a product of the modern public school....

I don't know what " the stars by which teachers teach " means, you'll have to explain that
 
Sycamore said:
Yes, capitalism sure has created wealth, but primarily in the upper classes. The rest have been gotten little, save an assault by both these classes and the government they control. But I suppose that's fine, because the only rich can save us from the harm they caused.:rolleyes:

When you lot are left behind by a generation forced to discard our oppressors, don't come asking for asylum.
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There are no distinctions by class in America, our Constitution and rule of law, applies to everyone equally, regardless of class. The myth about class in America was started by Socialists who rely on class warfare to make their ideology work. In our capitalist free market, free enterprise system, any poor person can become just as wealthy as Bill Gates. In fact, before Bill Gates was wealthy, he was what many would consider poor. Thus is the case for literally millions of people, who would have starved to death under a totalitarian Socialist regime.

You are actively promoting an ideology that not only has failed time and time again, but is responsible for more death than anything man has ever done. You want to implement this insanity by eliminating the system which has brought more people out of poverty and into prosperity, than anything man has ever done. You do this because you've been brainwashed into believing in Socialism, despite it's dismal record. You're apparently too illiterate and ignorant of history, to have the curiosity to investigate this, because if you ever did, you'd see nothing but a trail of death and tears in the wake of virtually any socialist government.

Socialism and Communism were born out of necessity. At the time, there was no America or American capitalism. Europe's capitalist power was controlled by the elite upper class, those who were from a royal family, born into class. The tenants of Socialism only work when society is divided by class. As opposed to having all your wealth and prosperity controlled by royal families, the idea of Socialism is intriguing and the arguments are made with merit. But in a free market capitalist society with a free enterprise system and Constitution guaranteeing everyone the same equal rights, the tenants of Socialism become irrelevant. Free market capitalism is just plain better, and this has been proven time and time again. Capitalism and free markets deliver what Socialism promises but fails to deliver. If you truly want everyone to have a slice of the pie and enjoy wealth equality, there is no better way to get there than through free market capitalism. If you want to greatly improve the lives of the impoverished, free market capitalism has proven successful at it, while Socialism has repeatedly failed, and usually ends in unspeakable horror.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Now Howey is groaning; because he revealed that he's really an inmate at a one of his local asylums.
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You would groan too if you were wrong as often as he is.....

Obama setting records.....

record long term unemployment under President Obama is at the highest level since at least the end of World War II
record -- of continuous unemployment
record numbers getting disability
record numbers getting food stamps
record number of years Senate has not passed a budget
record high national debt
record of military suicides
record of military kia in Afghanistan
record High Gasoline at Pump Averaged in 2012
record largest monthly deficit in history in February at $223 billion...CBO ( deficit for the ENTIRE Year of 2007 year was $62 billion lower than this one month)
record 'first'....debt rating has been downgraded for the first time in our history under Obama.
record....The number of Americans designated as "not in the labor force" in February, 2013 was 89,304,000, a record high,
First pinhead to propose 2 budgets that even his own party refused to vote for....
 
NOVA said:
You would groan too if you were wrong as often as he is.....

Obama setting records.....

record long term unemployment under President Obama is at the highest level since at least the end of World War II
record -- of continuous unemployment
record numbers getting disability
record numbers getting food stamps
record number of years Senate has not passed a budget
record high national debt
record of military suicides
record of military kia in Afghanistan
record High Gasoline at Pump Averaged in 2012
record largest monthly deficit in history in February at $223 billion...CBO ( deficit for the ENTIRE Year of 2007 year was $62 billion lower than this one month)
record 'first'....debt rating has been downgraded for the first time in our history under Obama.
record....The number of Americans designated as "not in the labor force" in February, 2013 was 89,304,000, a record high,
First pinhead to propose 2 budgets that even his own party refused to vote for....
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I wouldn't blame the economic situation entirely on the president. He takes some of the blame, sure. But this is a systematic failure.
 
Sycamore said:
I wouldn't blame the economic situation entirely on the president. He takes some of the blame, sure. But this is a systematic failure.
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But there is not a failure. I understand, as a Commie, you have to breathlessly exclaim this, but it's just not true. Currently, we are experiencing economic stagnation and spiraling inflation. This is largely due to anti-capitalist policies which continue to bombard the private sector. If you are the doctor, you have a pillow over the face of capitalism, proclaiming the patient is terminal. Again, history completely contradicts everything you are claiming here, because every time in history, when we relaxed regulation or restrictions on private sector capitalism, economic prosperity followed.

The president is responsible for the anti-capitalist policies he has implemented since becoming president. The result of these policies have caused a complete collapse of the job market. We are seeing the lowest levels of capitalistic growth in our nation's history, repeated year after year. As you continue to bitch and moan about profits, companies have to make profits for us to have economic growth and prosperity. You can't have one without the other.

You must perpetuate this myth that our system has failed, because this is the rationale for attempting a Socialist-Communist system.
 
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