Into the Night
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What about 'em?
If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book
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Freddy Figbottom
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why are they stupid and demon worshipping?
Freddy Figbottom
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yes. you're an ignorant shut in.
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ZenMode
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Playing dumb...as usual.
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ZenMode
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I don't need to. If sufficient evidence existed, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
ZenMode
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That noise you heard is the sound of you (intentionally) missing the point.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I don't have to disprove what you haven't proven.
I would never assume an island of magical rainbow unicorns. It would take extraordinary evidence to convince me it exists.
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Dutch Uncle
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Duh.
What piques my interest is the dislike spewed by atheists for "the Christian God", but never a fucking word about "the Jewish God", "the Muslim God", "the Hindu Gods", etc. Notice too that spreading hate, dislike or demeaning the beliefs of others is not Buddhist nor Zen. Weird!
Einstein said that belligerent atheists were almost always people who had traumatic or unpleasant experiences with the church their parents dragged them to as children or adolescents.
Dutch Uncle
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I agree with that assessment. Any militant or belligerent atheist over 30 is not a well person. They have unresolved issues which should be corrected with help from a therapist.
Not an accurate statement.
Quantum subatomic systems behave as a wave, but resolve to particle-like entities when measured. The probability comes in at the level of measurement, and that is just one interpretation. Some interpretations of quantum mechanics are perfectly deterministic.
The evolution of the quantum wave is completely deterministic. The Copenhagen interpretation states that the wave is a probability distribution that resolves to a particle upon measurement. But alternatively, the Many Worlds interpretation treats the wave function not as a probability distribution, but as a completely deterministic representation of all the states of physical reality.
Freddy Figbottom
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they use probability because it's not actually known, because it's too random.
probality math is how humanity deals with randomness.
why are you so hell bent on arguing against obvious truths?
is it because you're a demonic liar who has no truth in you?
I think one has to reach a point in life where they can get past whatever happened to them at the Pentecostal or Baptist church when they were 15 or 16.
And they have to be able to grow into the state of wisdom that not everything in life is answered by a scientific experiment or mathematical equation. Questions about god, about freedom, about equality, about relationships, about liberty, art, music, and about aesthetics are not going to be explained by mass spectrometers or particle accelerators.
ZenMode
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I don't think it's weird. I grew up as a Christian, in a Christian family and In a country that is primarily Christian. That's what I know.
I also know a fair amount about Mormonism, but the primary religion of posters on this forum appears to be Christianity, so there's not much reason to discuss Mormonism, Islam, Hinduism, etc.
I know a fair amount about Mormonism, also. When @gfm7175 said that Mormons are Christian, I laughed because they most definitely are not. They will tell you they are, but when your religion claims that a male, who is a sufficiently good Mormon, can become the god of his own planet, You are relinquishing your ability to say you are a Christian religion.
Probability makes the world and nature predictable and comprehensible.
Scientists use statistical mechanics because it is impossible to know the momentum and velocity of every molecule in a physical system. Statistical mechanics allow humans to sidestep this limitation imposed by our ignorance, but in reality the physical system is deterministic at the level of molecules.
The probabilities in quantum mechanics comes in at the level of measurement and interpretation. It's an open question as to whether QM tells us reality is probabilistic, or actually deterministic in fundamental nature.
Dutch Uncle
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Agreed. It's called "growing up". Maturing into an adult. If they can't do that, then they need to seek help to resolve their issues.
Agreed on the difference between physical matters and spiritual ones. In this case, as stated previously, the problem is mental. It's blocking them from growing. The psychological trauma of childhood experiences prevents them from becoming a fully actualized adult. As you mentioned, most people grow out of it.
OTOH, it's possible they are suffering from a genetic defect that prevents them from experiencing their spiritual nature, much like a color-blind person can't see certain colors.
Dutch Uncle
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So what? Are you saying it's normal for a person who grew up Muslim, becomes an atheist but only bitches about the Muslim God and no others?
Sybil is psychotic. He runs at least four socks on JPP. Arguing with nutjobs is an exercise in futility because they lack the capacity to be rational.
Classic case of seeing Organized Religion of Man,isn't remotely the same thing as a personal relationship with Jesus through the Holy Spirit