If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[Into the Night]

"I DO NOT KNOW"...is logical. It is logic.

There is no logical expression for "I do not know". Logic is not involved here.

There MAY BE AT LEAST ONE GOD...and THERE MAY BE NO GODS...(which is what I have been saying)...

Which is not logic, but it is not a fallacy either. No problem with this statement.

...IS LOGICAL...

There is no logical expression for "I don't know". Logic is not involved here.

...that is not an opinion.

I is an opinion. Again, there is nothing wrong with that.

In fact, one is certain. Either there is at least one god...or there are no gods.

That is an opinion. There is nothing wrong with that. No fallacy occurred, for logic is not even involved.

 

[gfm7175]

Other than the Bible, or other religious books, what evidence is there for gods?

RQAA. Stop asking the same questions over and over and over again.

 

[Monad Portal]

I would dearly love to meet a person who, without ever hearing of the Bible or any details of Christianity, who could come up with the concepts behind Christianity without reliance on the Bible or Christian writings. Just from "first principles".

Any religion for that matter.

actually the golden rule is pure logic and is what people come up with naturally all around the world.

 

[gfm7175]

I am monad.

No, you are "No Name". You change your moniker like you change your underwear.

 

[Monad Portal]

There is no logical expression for "I do not know". Logic is not involved here.

Which is not logic, but it is not a fallacy either. No problem with this statement.

There is no logical expression for "I don't know". Logic is not involved here.

I is an opinion. Again, there is nothing wrong with that.

That is an opinion. There is nothing wrong with that. No fallacy occurred, for logic is not even involved.

it's a called a variable. variable x = unknown.

you fucking moron.

why do you take a couple days off and try to find a clue.

 

[Ross Dolan]

IYMSS

I have no idea of what IYMSS means...and was not able to get it through Google.

 

[Hume]

actually the golden rule is pure logic and is what people come up with naturally all around the world.

False.

 

[ZenMode]

RQAA. Stop asking the same questions over and over and over again.

Why? Every time one of you answers it with "Everything is evidence for God!" I can say, that's only true if you believe gods exist. For the rest of us, the fact that everything exist is just a statement that hasn't been scientifically explained.

 

[Monad Portal]

You did not explain how these undetectable/inobservable/nonconfirmable quarks were somehow detected/observed/confirmed. You keep chanting that they were detected/observed/confirmed as your basis for claiming that quarks have been discovered, not merely theorized.

The researchers whose continued funding was results-driven needed to show some results so they "declared" the discovery of quarks and everybody was happy. It was something that couldn't be proven false. Nonetheless, no "quarks" have been discovered; quarks are merely theorized particles that cannot be detected according to the exact same theory that theorizes their existence. To declare detection is to destroy the very theory of which they theoretically exist. This is how religions work, by the way.

it doesn't matter.

somehow they are observed as dots.

you're free to argue the hadron's dots are unseenly or whatever, until then, stfu.

 

[Jake Starkey]

I have no idea of what IYMSS means...and was not able to get it through Google.

If you must say so.

 

[Into the Night]

I said plexiglass because it's clear.

No, it isn't. Plexiglass is translucent. It blocks UV light almost completely and has notches of infrared light filtered out. Of visible light, it is less diminished, but is reduced by about 8% at the surface and by an additional 0.5% per inch of material. This is assuming clear plexiglass (you can get it in opaque and colored translucent versions as well).

Whatever substance you believe they believed it was made of, you can go with that. I don't care. The point is, they believed there was a solid structure around the earth that sometimes let rain in.

No such substance described in the Bible.

 

[Into the Night]

it doesn't matter.

somehow they are observed as dots.

you're free to argue the hadron's dots are unseenly or whatever, until then, stfu.

What 'dots'?

 

[Into the Night]

If you must say so.

?? More random words. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

How have you verified there are gods?

He hasn't. He is not making an argument that there is.

What was your experiment.

Irrelevance fallacy.

You better show your work

Irrelevance fallacy. YARP

 

[Into the Night]

actually the golden rule is pure logic

Logic is not involved here.

and is what people come up with naturally all around the world.

You don't get to speak for everyone. Omniscience fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

it's a called a variable. variable x = unknown.

Logic is not a random variable. There is no expression in logic for "I don't know".

 

[Into the Night]

False.

You don't get to speak for everyone either, Hugo. Omniscience fallacy.

 

[Hume]

You don't get to speak for everyone either, Hugo. Omniscience fallacy.

get lost bozo

 

[Into the Night]

Why? Every time one of you answers it with "Everything is evidence for God!" I can say, that's only true if you believe gods exist. For the rest of us, the fact that everything exist is just a statement that hasn't been scientifically explained.

You don't get to speak for everyone, Void. Omniscience fallacy.
I have already given you objective evidence. You can't make any evidence just disappear.

 

[ZenMode]

No such substance described in the Bible.

Genesis 1:6 (KJV): "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters".
Genesis 1:7 (KJV): "And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so".
Genesis 1:8 (KJV): "And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day".
Genesis 1:14 (KJV): "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years".
Psalm 19:1 (KJV): "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork".

Firmament is from the Hebrew word raqia which is generally understood to mean to be something thin and solid, which would make sense because you wouldn't want all that blue water in the sky to come crashing down on you, right?

This is how Jews at the time of the Old Testament viewed the Earth: