If the Zelenskies use US long range missiles inside Russia- where will the Russian nuke first ?

[Walt]

Trump was right when he said this administration is going to start WW3.

Well, trump has another four months to be proven right. It has not happened yet, but the future is unknown.

Biden has proven to be very good at "slicing the salami." Each step is so minor that Putin would seem silly in reacting to it, but in total Ukraine has been well supplied to defend itself. Simply put, Biden has finesse where trump does not even know the meaning of the word.

 

[Joe]

Well, trump has another four months to be proven right. It has not happened yet, but the future is unknown.

Biden has proven to be very good at "slicing the salami." Each step is so minor that Putin would seem silly in reacting to it, but in total Ukraine has been well supplied to defend itself. Simply put, Biden has finesse where trump does not even know the meaning of the word.

Biden doesn't even have bowel control at this point

 

[Walt]

No circumstances are going to compel him to commit suicide and ensure the complete destruction of his country.

In America, the President gives the orders to launch a nuclear war, and everyone obeys that order(in theory). In Russia, the president orders the generals to launch a nuclear war, but the generals make the actual decision whether to go through with it. This is a hold over from the Soviet days, and would take a major change to alter.

That means that even if Putin is looking at certain death, and has no reason to care about anyone else, the generals would still not allow a nuclear war. It also means there is a greater danger of a rouge general launching a nuclear war, but it is a good thing in this situation.

But again, there are no certainties in any of this.

 

[Walt]

Biden doesn't even have bowel control at this point

I think you are confusing Biden for trump. trump is the one who wears adult diapers, because he does not have bowel control. Biden is the one running circles around Putin.

 

[Hawkeye10]

 

[Hawkeye10]

On what pretext ?

A US attack on Russia would be a ' first strike '.

Just how keen are you on being vaporized for Zelensky's desire to be a European ?

Zelensky does not decide much of anything, he is a puppet of the Americans and the Brits.

Ukraine no longer exists as a country, it is an outpost of the Evil American Empire.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Every day NATO, which is fully a vehicle of the terrorist American Empire, faces the choice of admitting defeat in Ukraine or escalate.....every day the children of Washington choose escalation. If this continues we are all dead.

 

[Hawkeye10]

3 points:

1) Escobar reports that the decision has been made in Washington to massively increase missile attacks on Russia.

2) The ATACMS dont have the range to reach the airbases the Russians are using for Ukraine attacks.

3) Being terrorists very often NATO does not even pretend to be trying to hit Russian military assets, they go after civilian targets, which will likely continue with this next escalation.

 

[Hawkeye10]

4) The Russians have by far the best air defense systems in the world

5) The purpose of NATO's terror actions on Russia is to destabilize the nation and get Putin out, which is a demonstration of the children of Washington's profound ignorance and brutality.

 

[Hawkeye10]

6) NATO's missile stockpile is now extremely small, with very poor ability to build more, burning very many more in this assault on Russia will go far to further hollow out NATO's credibility as a capable military force, which is already in collapse.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

where will the Russian nuke first​

Gaza......

 

[Hawkeye10]

 

[Hawkeye10]

Also reporting that the children of Washington have decided to ramp up attacks on Russia:

 

[Althea]

Zelensky is no longer president of Ukraine- he is a war-lord. His tenure has ended.

What would Washington- or London/Paris do if a war-lord was striking them with missiles provided by Russia ?

Zelenskyy urges Biden to allow Ukraine to hit Russian airfields to stop Kremlin bombing campaign

Ukraine needs U.S. permission to use ATACMS to hit Russian bases where bomb-dropping aircraft are based.

www.politico.eu

This outdated article was penned long before Ukraine moved into Russian territory.

There will be no nukes.

 

[moon]

Why would Zelenskyy use long range missiles inside Russia? All of European Russia(and most of Siberia) is within range of intermediate range missiles fired from Ukraine. Yes, parts are Siberia are beyond 5,500 kilometers away, but only a tiny part of Eastern Siberia. Why bother with using long range missiles?

Why use American missiles? Ukraine has an aerospace industry from the Soviet Union. While it has been allowed to rot recently, it is still decades, if not centuries, ahead of the Houthis. They could produce their own missiles using easily available parts.

Your hypothetical makes no sense. Let's talk about a real possibility. If the Ukrainians use intermediate range missiles produced in Ukraine, with parts bought on the open market, to hit targets in Russia, what then? I would assume that Russia would continue to fire missiles at Ukraine, though they might expand the war. Ukraine has already fired drones, and cruise missiles into Moscow, so there is precedent for saying things would not get worse.

Why ? He already has them, we are informed- and he wants permission to use them in order to strike airfields etc. out of range of what he's allowed to use now.
Sure, he can make his own- although there's not much left of his manufacturing industry as it is.
Nevermind the pernickety though, it's what will happen if he gets permission that should concern you.

 

[moon]

This outdated article was penned long before Ukraine moved into Russian territory.

There will be no nukes.

It's not that elderly- and used because the latest news wasn't available in the general media yesterday.
Yes, the Russians will use nukes just as soon as they believe it to be necessary.

 

[Hawkeye10]

It's not that elderly- and used because the latest news wasn't available in the general media yesterday.
Yes, the Russians will use nukes just as soon as they believe it to be necessary.

The Russians think that the economic and social collapse of America is here, and are trying their best to avoid the incineration of the world.....but.....they are not bluffing.

"If it happens then we are all dead, but we are going to Heaven, you are going to Hell".

 

[Hawkeye10]

Why ? He already has them, we are informed- and he wants permission to use them in order to strike airfields etc. out of range of what he's allowed to use now.
Sure, he can make his own- although there's not much left of his manufacturing industry as it is.
Nevermind the pernickety though, it's what will happen if he gets permission that should concern you.

Permission is the wrong word....these weapons could not be fired without extensive non Ukrainian expertise and labor......we participate in the attacks.....Russia has been very clear on this point and it has not been disputed by America.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Doing this just now:

Biden Admin Sets Stage to Allow Kiev to Use Long-Range Missiles Inside Russia w/ Mark Sleboda​

Suggests that the claim that Iran sent 200 missiles to Russia might well be an American lie to justify increasing attacks on Russia.

 

[moon]

Doing this just now:

Biden Admin Sets Stage to Allow Kiev to Use Long-Range Missiles Inside Russia w/ Mark Sleboda​

Suggests that the claim that Iran sent 200 missiles to Russia might well be an American lie to justify increasing attacks on Russia.

The Iranians deny it.