If there was no fraud what's the problem?

[Flash]

you are fucking crazy, bitch. nuttier than a squirrel turd.

He lives in Bizzaro World. All facts are false and all false claims are true (if they came from Trump). It generates a lot of revenue for social media and news sources for people who read no real news.

The only thing Trump said which is mostly true that the vaccine is safe and effective and saving millions of lives they don't believe but they believe all his lies.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

Pennsylvania has started doing audits of their election results. One Republican state senator wants materials from three Democrat heavy counties for auditing. These counties are refusing to turn over the materials to the state legislature and this senator.

Why would they care, if there was no fraud or other irregularities in their ballot counting?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alison...turn-over-election-materials/?sh=1c38124519fe
https://news.yahoo.com/pennsylvania-county-refuses-access-voting-233900955.html
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...uipment-for-an-arizona-style-audit/ar-AALSSGA

Because if he only wants to examine Democrat counties it is a partisan exercise. Do 'em all or do none.

Fair is fair.

And that would be an absurd waste of State money.

It is pointless.

The election is over.

Trump lost.

Time to get over it.

These people are simply playing up to the misinformed base. There is nothing wrong with the election just because Trump lost. Polling showed he was supposed to lose. He lost. It has already been checked and rechecked.

It is time to move on.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Hello T. A. Gardner,



Because if he only wants to examine Democrat counties it is a partisan exercise. Do 'em all or do none.

Fine by me, but even doing cherry picked counties as a first pass seems reasonable. If something is found, do the rest.

Fair is fair.

Little or nothing is fair in love, war, and politics...

And that would be an absurd waste of State money.

It is pointless.

The election is over.

Trump lost...

Ipse dixit

 

[AProudLefty]

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

Fine by me, but even doing cherry picked counties as a first pass seems reasonable. If something is found, do the rest.



Little or nothing is fair in love, war, and politics...



Ipse dixit

Polling for every election Trump was ever in showed he would lose the popular vote and that is exactly what happened.

Just because he won the presidency in the EC doesn't mean he 'won in a landslide,' or that the polling was incorrect, or that there was fraud.

He is quite simply the world's worst loser ever.

 

[Concart]

Hello T. A. Gardner,



Polling for every election Trump was ever in showed he would lose the popular vote and that is exactly what happened.

Just because he won the presidency in the EC doesn't mean he 'won in a landslide,' or that the polling was incorrect, or that there was fraud.

He is quite simply the world's worst loser ever.

What T.A. is really saying is 'make sure the darkies didn't cheat first, then we'll talk about the rest'. This is a guy who thinks it's funny to gas nests of homeless vermin. He has nothing to offer. Sorry, but I don't feel the need to pull punches with a guy who would post something that contemptible and laugh about it. He isn't worthy of a response IMHO.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Concart,

What T.A. is really saying is 'make sure the darkies didn't cheat first, then we'll talk about the rest'. This is a guy who thinks it's funny to gas nests of homeless vermin. He has nothing to offer. Sorry, but I don't feel the need to pull punches with a guy who would post something that contemptible and laugh about it. He isn't worthy of a response IMHO.

You are certainly exercising your freedom to post as you please, respond to whomever you please. We all set our own criteria for deciding who we respond to and how. We must. It is simply impossible to address every single comment. There's too much.

I don't back away from difficult conversations because I disagree with someone. My standard is civility. I am here to talk about politics, and I fully expect to encounter very disagreeable positions. I have zero interest in insult contests.

I don't spend 24-7 here, and I don't want to. I have a life. I come here when I want to sit down for a while and take a break. No way I want to get into the personal garbage, so I set my standards high, and filter out all of that. I want to be challenged. I want to counter respectful and well articulated opposing views with what seems logical to me.

I have a very large Ignore List. Everybody who mouthed off at me is on it permanently. I make my standards very clear up front, and I make examples out of violators when they go off on me. And then I never talk about them again. I actually wish them well. I see no useful purpose in harboring hatred, holding grudges, or seeking revenge. None of those things serve any good purpose.

I also have a very large friend's list. I appreciate that tacit support for my style of posting. I set high standards, and I try to live up to them. Then I can rest easy, leave it all be when I am not here, knowing I have given it my best.

My philosophy is to post in such a way that if everyone were to post that same way we would have the finest discussion board to be found.

 

[Concart]

Hello Concart,



You are certainly exercising your freedom to post as you please, respond to whomever you please. We all set our own criteria for deciding who we respond to and how. We must. It is simply impossible to address every single comment. There's too much.

I don't back away from difficult conversations because I disagree with someone. My standard is civility. I am here to talk about politics, and I fully expect to encounter very disagreeable positions. I have zero interest in insult contests.

I don't spend 24-7 here, and I don't want to. I have a life. I come here when I want to sit down for a while and take a break. No way I want to get into the personal garbage, so I set my standards high, and filter out all of that. I want to be challenged. I want to counter respectful and well articulated opposing views with what seems logical to me.

I have a very large Ignore List. Everybody who mouthed off at me is on it permanently. I make my standards very clear up front, and I make examples out of violators when they go off on me. And then I never talk about them again. I actually wish them well. I see no useful purpose in harboring hatred, holding grudges, or seeking revenge. None of those things serve any good purpose.

I also have a very large friend's list. I appreciate that tacit support for my style of posting. I set high standards, and I try to live up to them. Then I can rest easy, leave it all be when I am not here, knowing I have given it my best.

My philosophy is to post in such a way that if everyone were to post that same way we would have the finest discussion board to be found.

I like your style, even though it's different than mine. No offense intended. You add a LOT to this site.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello Concart,

I like your style, even though it's different than mine. No offense intended. You add a LOT to this site.

The sentiment is reciprocal. You are one of my favorite posters. Very wise. Very astute, and quite well reserved. Well informed. To the point, but not petty. The board could use more like you.

 

[Into the Night]

He lives in Bizzaro World. All facts are false and all false claims are true (if they came from Trump). It generates a lot of revenue for social media and news sources for people who read no real news.

The only thing Trump said which is mostly true that the vaccine is safe and effective and saving millions of lives they don't believe but they believe all his lies.

Try learning English.

 

[Into the Night]

Hello T. A. Gardner,
Because if he only wants to examine Democrat counties it is a partisan exercise. Do 'em all or do none.

Fair is fair.

If you want to look for your car keys, you don't go searching the entire State for them.

And that would be an absurd waste of State money.

Finding fraud is not a waste of State money.

It is pointless.

The election is over.

The election of 2020 never took place.

Trump lost.

Can't lose what never occurred.

Time to get over it.

No. Election fraud is a criminal act.

These people are simply playing up to the misinformed base. There is nothing wrong with the election just because Trump lost. Polling showed he was supposed to lose. He lost. It has already been checked and rechecked.

News polls don't mean anything. Counting fake ballots is pointless.

It is time to move on.

No. Election fraud is a crime.

 

[Into the Night]

Trump didn't lose.

 

[AProudLefty]

Trump didn't lose.

True. He won by collecting the donations, making himself richer.

 

[Into the Night]

Hello T. A. Gardner,



Polling for every election Trump was ever in showed he would lose the popular vote and that is exactly what happened.

The President is not elected by popular vote.
News polls mean absolutely nothing.

Just because he won the presidency in the EC doesn't mean he 'won in a landslide,' or that the polling was incorrect, or that there was fraud.

There was election fraud. You can't just wish the evidence away, dude.

He is quite simply the world's worst loser ever.

Lost what? There was no election in 2020.

 

[Into the Night]

Hello Concart,



You are certainly exercising your freedom to post as you please, respond to whomever you please. We all set our own criteria for deciding who we respond to and how. We must. It is simply impossible to address every single comment. There's too much.

I don't back away from difficult conversations because I disagree with someone.

Yes you do. You have quite probably the largest ignore list on JPP.

My standard is civility. I am here to talk about politics, and I fully expect to encounter very disagreeable positions. I have zero interest in insult contests.

So only you can insult, eh?

I don't spend 24-7 here, and I don't want to. I have a life.

Everyone here has a life.

I come here when I want to sit down for a while and take a break. No way I want to get into the personal garbage, so I set my standards high, and filter out all of that. I want to be challenged. I want to counter respectful and well articulated opposing views with what seems logical to me.

No, you put on ignore opposing views.

I have a very large Ignore List. Everybody who mouthed off at me is on it permanently. I make my standards very clear up front, and I make examples out of violators when they go off on me. And then I never talk about them again. I actually wish them well. I see no useful purpose in harboring hatred, holding grudges, or seeking revenge. None of those things serve any good purpose.

An ignore list IS holding grudges.

I also have a very large friend's list. I appreciate that tacit support for my style of posting. I set high standards, and I try to live up to them. Then I can rest easy, leave it all be when I am not here, knowing I have given it my best.

My philosophy is to post in such a way that if everyone were to post that same way we would have the finest discussion board to be found.

Whining about opposing views and putting large numbers of people on ignore lists is not a 'fine discussion'.

 

[katzgar]

Idiot democrats seem to be worried. Thae enough is reason to proceed.

nope, a bunch of trump supporters on mobility scooters arent really a threat.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Hello T. A. Gardner,



Polling for every election Trump was ever in showed he would lose the popular vote and that is exactly what happened.

Just because he won the presidency in the EC doesn't mean he 'won in a landslide,' or that the polling was incorrect, or that there was fraud.

He is quite simply the world's worst loser ever.

Polling said in 2016 the Hildabeast would win in a landslide. Trump won. Just because the predictions match the outcome doesn't mean the predictions were correct by other than chance.

 

[PoliTalker]

Hello T. A. Gardner,

Polling said in 2016 the Hildabeast would win in a landslide. Trump won. Just because the predictions match the outcome doesn't mean the predictions were correct by other than chance.

None of the 2016 polling referred to HRC by that derogatory term.

The polling in 2016 indicated no landslide for Hillary. It indicated a slight lead, which was diminishing as election day grew closer.

The results were very close to what the polls indicated. While Hillary won the popular vote by a margin by 3 million, (almost precisely matching the polls) the EC handed the narrow victory to her opponent.

Too bad for America.

Trump lost the popular vote in 2016, and he lost it by a larger margin in 2020.