so is Bob Mueller
If Trump....
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christiefan915
Catalyst
Way back in our Netscape days cons definitely supported torture and I don't believe they changed their minds since then.
For the most part, I have never heard nor seen the slightest remorse or regret from any conservative poster about the entire Iraq War, including the use of torture.
I actually haven't seen them admit to even learning any lessons at all. There has been no introspection, none, by wingnuts about their beloved Iraq War or torture.
So, in that moral universe, I cannot see how Trump paying to abort a fetus would have the slightest effect on their worship of him.
christiefan915
Catalyst
Yep, I agree.
Leon Panetta....remember him
Obama’s CIA Director,
Then Obama’s Defense Secretary
Didn’t he admit that torture played a role in gathering intelligence in the hunt for Osama bin Laden ?
Of course he later speculated they’d have gotten Osama even without it….
Pompeo said,
“Our men and women who were tasked to keep us safe in the aftermath of 9/11 — our military and our intelligence warriors — are heroes, not pawns in some liberal game being played by the ACLU and Senator Feinstein,” Pompeo said in a statement on Dec. 9, 2014. “These men and women are not torturers, they are patriots. The programs being used were within the law, within the constitution, and conducted with the full knowledge Senator Feinstein. If any individual did operate outside of the program’s legal framework, I would expect them to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article115646238.html#storylink=cpy
No matter anyway, 'enhanced interrogation' is illegal
Leon Panetta also said in an interview that Americans should prepare themselves for the country to be at war with the Islamic State and other terrorist groups for decades to come.
'I think we're looking at kind of a 30-year war,' he said.
Threats posed by emerging terrorist networks in Nigeria, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and other countries will keep the U.S. military engaged for the foreseeable future, he forewarned. The fight will not end when the U.S. defeats ISIS in Iraq and Syria
Is he a Muslim hater or he just being realistic.....
Would it been better for you if he used Planned Parenthood ?
Every time I think of Otto Warmbier, imprisoned in North Korea for 17 months, returned home blind, deaf and "jerking violently, making these inhuman sounds"
according to his parents…..torture isn’t enough payback for people that do things like that or the beheading of prisoners like the Muslim fanatics....
We don't even treat animals for slaughter like that.....I won't lose any sleep over fighting 'fire with fire'....you reap what you sow.
seems like a mutually beneficial deal for two consenting adults. whats the issue?
I supported the iraq war when I was 18 years old. They literally started bombing perhaps a week after my 18th birthday. I was very new to politics and paying attention to current events. My logic was very simple: "there is NO WAY our government would actually lie to us, and tell a lie so big, and do it on the world stage. just no way"
To my very best credit, I turned against the iraq war very quickly. All the way back in mid-late 2003 on politics.com you can still find cached posts of mine talking about how we should get out of iraq.
So yes I have learned a very important lesson. I now know the government lies routinely. They will lie us (and have lied us) into syria as well, though I see far fewer liberals caring about that whole cluster fuck. The CIA, NSA, FBI deepstate spooks are never to be trusted. If it were up to them they would commit false flag murder on americans like they tried to do with operation northwoods back in the 60's. Or they'll find homeless people and prostitutes and drug them on LSD for mind reading purposes like the now declassified program MK ULTRA.
In fact I think there are quite a few conservatives on this site that regret the iraq war. You sort of have a habit of ignoring all that though.
Controlled Opposition
Note my apathy
"Would it been better for you if he used Planned Parenthood ?"
Witty.
Witty.
well apparently you just read that one. If you are so good at ignoring my posts, I don't think you would need to go out of your way to tell me off like you just did. Seems me responding to your post bothered you just a tiny bit for you to make a big show of it.
instead of calling me names and making personal attacks, how about you take my post for what it is? I gave you a moment of me actually admitting I was wrong, just like you say conservatives never do. I thought it was an overall pretty contrite post on my part.
And btw, I know you read my posts all the time. You can't help yourself, or you wouldn't threadban me.
and cypress I will respond to you as much as like, because even if you want to pretend you aren't reading my responses, the bottom line is there are plenty of others that will be.
Tragically you don't know the difference.
Obama obviously politicized the IRS against conservative groups...there is no way Lois Lerner would have done what she did without cover from the top....
Today, its even more obvious that the CIA, DOJ and the FBI is politicized to the do bidding of the liberals....that didn't happen all by itself....
I could imagine one or two mavericks in one of the organizations but that isn't the case....
Notice how the leaks are almost extinct since Comey, McCabel, and few others of the highest officials in the various departments are no longer in their positions....
thats not coincidence either....
It was the Obama admin. that created the politicization of those areas of gov.....he hired those people telling us how honorable and honest and trustworthy they were,
and that was total bullshit....so yeah, Obama is ethically challenged....
Now the conservobots are in charge of the entire US Government. Still Obama nor Hillary have been charged with a single act of wrong doing. That is because real evidence (not just being obvious to conservatives) is required to charge someone in court. Silly right wing conspiracy thingies don't work because we still have laws and courts and stuff in this country. Oh, and how many Trumpsters have plead guilty or worked out plea deals? These silly RW conspiracy theories just makes them look silly. Now scream Benghazi and run out of the room.
CharacterAssassin
Verified User
Obama wasn't and isn't a socialst and shared nothing in common with communist puritans.
Pro-tip: words have meanings. Check it out.
evince
Truthmatters
do we have to go through all the court cases again to show you those women lied until it was under oath time?
Paula Jones's own family said she was lying
evince
Truthmatters
because he was actually tortured