If Trump....

because he was actually tortured

Unless I surrender to abject cynicism, I have to try to believe that a lot of Republicans in congress do not favor sado-sexual torture and waterboarding.
Maybe they just don't have the courage to speak out against it, because politically the most active and passionate core of the conservative base, are Trumpanzees who are titillated by fantasies of retribution, torture, and sadism.
 
Too many John Wayne movies.
Unless I surrender to abject cynicism, I have to try to believe that a lot of Republicans in congress do not favor sado-sexual torture and waterboarding.
Maybe they just don't have the courage to speak out against it, because politically the most active and passionate core of the conservative base, are Trumpanzees who are titillated by fantasies of retribution, torture, and sadism.
 
its sociopathic thinking


they don't matter and I do


there fore anything I do to them is fine

Only I can be harmed and no one else matters


warning: the words in blue are an example of sociopathic thinking and I disagree with them
 
Well, you're partially correct. He was actually much more of a fascist. You got to admit, obama loved him some government!

Why would I admit what wasn't true? Obama simply isn't a fascist, either, but I can see why clowns like D'Souza would desperately need to peddle the bullshit that he is.
 
For the most part, I have never heard nor seen the slightest remorse or regret from any conservative poster about the entire Iraq War, including the use of torture.
I actually haven't seen them admit to even learning any lessons at all. There has been no introspection, none, by wingnuts about their beloved Iraq War or torture.

So, in that moral universe, I cannot see how Trump paying to abort a fetus would have the slightest effect on their worship of him.

Have you apologized for you misogynistic rape apologist ways?
 
How many women did Trump abuse if Cohen made a great living representing him in those cases? If that is a Teeny tiny fraction of his law work, Trump must have had a law firm on retainer. Admit it rightys, trump is a pig and a liar. You were suckered.
 
Look at what leading feminists said about Bill Clinton's behavior back when. Essentially it was his personal behavior doesn't really matter become the power he has as President is too important. So yeah, there are a lot of people who let personal behavior slide in politics because of power.

Try impeachent. That was not true for Bill. So you think Trump should be impeached too?
 
How many women did Trump abuse if Cohen made a great living representing him in those cases? If that is a Teeny tiny fraction of his law work, Trump must have had a law firm on retainer. Admit it rightys, trump is a pig and a liar. You were suckered.

“Abused”women? Have any of them said they were abused? No one gives a damn about Trump’s sex life before he was elected except you neo-puritans.
 
Leon Panetta....remember him
Obama’s CIA Director,

Then Obama’s Defense Secretary


Didn’t he admit that torture played a role in gathering intelligence in the hunt for Osama bin Laden ?
Of course he later speculated they’d have gotten Osama even without it….


Pompeo said,

“Our men and women who were tasked to keep us safe in the aftermath of 9/11 — our military and our intelligence warriors — are heroes, not pawns in some liberal game being played by the ACLU and Senator Feinstein,” Pompeo said in a statement on Dec. 9, 2014. “These men and women are not torturers, they are patriots. The programs being used were within the law, within the constitution, and conducted with the full knowledge Senator Feinstein. If any individual did operate outside of the program’s legal framework, I would expect them to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.


No matter anyway, 'enhanced interrogation' is illegal

Leon Panetta also said in an interview that Americans should prepare themselves for the country to be at war with the Islamic State and other terrorist groups for decades to come.

'I think we're looking at kind of a 30-year war,' he said.

Threats posed by emerging terrorist networks in Nigeria, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and other countries will keep the U.S. military engaged for the foreseeable future, he forewarned. The fight will not end when the U.S. defeats ISIS in Iraq and Syria


Is he a Muslim hater or he just being realistic.....


I don't agree with Panetta or any liberal who supports torture. Pompeo is just trying to defend the indefensible.
 
Obama obviously politicized the IRS against conservative groups...there is no way Lois Lerner would have done what she did without cover from the top....
Today, its even more obvious that the CIA, DOJ and the FBI is politicized to the do bidding of the liberals....that didn't happen all by itself....
I could imagine one or two mavericks in one of the organizations but that isn't the case....

Notice how the leaks are almost extinct since Comey, McCabel, and few others of the highest officials in the various departments are no longer in their positions....
thats not coincidence either....

It was the Obama admin. that created the politicization of those areas of gov.....he hired those people telling us how honorable and honest and trustworthy they were,
and that was total bullshit....so yeah, Obama is ethically challenged....

ODS. :rolleyes:
 
well apparently you just read that one. If you are so good at ignoring my posts, I don't think you would need to go out of your way to tell me off like you just did. Seems me responding to your post bothered you just a tiny bit for you to make a big show of it.

instead of calling me names and making personal attacks, how about you take my post for what it is? I gave you a moment of me actually admitting I was wrong, just like you say conservatives never do. I thought it was an overall pretty contrite post on my part.

And btw, I know you read my posts all the time. You can't help yourself, or you wouldn't threadban me.

It is an interesting question. Do I regret the Iraq War?

Given where we were back then I stand by the decision at the time

I regret the following with regards to Iraq

1) Congress should have declared war
2) We should have destroyed them
and walked away. No nation building

My thoughts on warfare and intervention have changed tremendously over the years.

Looking back I we shouldn’t have given a shit if Saddam had WMD or not. Just like we shouldn’t give a shot about Iran or N Korea.

We should pull our soldiers out of every foreign country and deploy them to our southern border with AR15s and orders to shoot first ask questions later
 
well apparently you just read that one. If you are so good at ignoring my posts, I don't think you would need to go out of your way to tell me off like you just did. Seems me responding to your post bothered you just a tiny bit for you to make a big show of it.

instead of calling me names and making personal attacks, how about you take my post for what it is? I gave you a moment of me actually admitting I was wrong, just like you say conservatives never do. I thought it was an overall pretty contrite post on my part.

And btw, I know you read my posts all the time. You can't help yourself, or you wouldn't threadban me.

Clearly our friend wasn’t looking for an honest discussion and would rather wallow in her delusions.

You burst her balloon and it obviously saddened her
 
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