Ignorance and the Bible

[Cypress]

Most atheists, at least none of the militant ones posting online, are any of those things anymore than MAGAts are. Both groups are irrational and fanatical.

As you mentioned before, when you start encountering the most militant of atheists, they start treating the entire Bible as literal and factual analytical history.

It's an easy straw man to set up and knock down.

It actually takes work, integrity, and rationality to be impartial and practice the methods of literary criticism and to recognize literary style to get anything meaningful out of the Bible.

So the takeaway is that militant Atheists and evangelical Bible thumpers tend to be the least rational and least empirical of posters.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

As you mentioned before, when you start encountering the most militant of atheists, they start treating the entire Bible as literal and factual analytical history.

It's an easy straw man to set up and knock down.

It actually takes work, integrity, and rationality to practice the methods of literary criticism and to recognize literary style to get anything meaningful out of the Bible.

So the takeaway is that militant Atheists and evangelical Bible thumpers tend to be the least rational and least empirical of posters.

Agreed. Both use the same "logic", emotional appeal and literal reading of the Bible.

 

[Cypress]

All great historical points.

It also points out that "history is written by the victors". Decades passed before writing the Gospels and centuries passed before the canonized Bible was passed. It would be normal for those in power to spin the story to their favor.

I feel like the early Christians really tried to sugarcoat Pontius Pilate because they were just a small religious cult and didn't want to write anything inflammatory about the Romans. The Romans tended to be extremely suspicious of small religious cults, and the early church didn't want to draw Roman attention.

The tradition is that Mark wrote his Gospel in Rome (he was Peter's secretary), and it would have been very dangerous for him to write anything negative or inflammatory about the Romans, especially since he was in Rome, lol

 

[Dutch Uncle]

I feel like the early Christians really tried to sugarcoat Pontius Pilate because they were just a small religious cult and didn't want to write anything inflammatory about the Romans. The Romans tended to be extremely suspicious off small religious cults, and the early church didn't want to draw Roman attention.

The tradition is that Mark wrote his Gospel in Rome (he was Peter's secretary), and it would have been very dangerous for him to write anything negative or inflammatory about the Romans, especially since he was in Rome, lol

That would be wise to no piss off TPTB, especially if they could wipe you out with the wave of a hand.

The essence of the story is in the Gospels, the spin is more about self-preservation against the Romans and to push forward a neophyte religion.

 

[Into the Night]

do you deny it?

You made the claim. How do you figure?

 

[Into the Night]

Search Assist

The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) facilitated transactions that involved gold and assets from Nazi Germany during World War II, which has led to controversy regarding its role in financing the Nazi regime. However, it was primarily intended to promote international monetary cooperation among central banks. Wikipedia University of Pennsylvania

So? That's not control.

 

[Into the Night]

when Hitler rolled into czechoslovakia the BIS was complicit and transferred all czechoslovakias money to Hitler.

The Swiss don't control any currency but their own, The don't control Czeck currency and never did.

 

[Into the Night]

The only ones who think it hilarious are people who are doing it.

You are an atheist...and you blindly guess that there are no gods (or that it is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one.)

Atheists don't guess about whether there is no god. They don't care whether a god or gods exist or not.

 

[Into the Night]

or just "i don't know".

that's agnostic.

No. An agnostic acknowledges there is a god, but cannot describe the character of that god. They simply declare it unknowable.

 

[Into the Night]

MAGAts hate Jews. They hide it well because they need Israel but they do.

Yes. You hate Jews. You hav often spoken out against them.

 

[Into the Night]

As you mentioned before, when you start encountering the most militant of atheists,

There is no such thing as a 'militant atheist'.

they start treating the entire Bible as literal and factual analytical history.

Atheists don't bother with the Bible much. There is no point to an atheist.

It's an easy straw man to set up and knock down.

Fallacy fallacy. No strawman.

It actually takes work, integrity, and rationality to be impartial and practice the methods of literary criticism and to recognize literary style to get anything meaningful out of the Bible.

Nope. Just takes reading it, and desiring to know the truth of it, and praying for that.

So the takeaway is that militant Atheists and evangelical Bible thumpers tend to be the least rational and least empirical of posters.

Random phrases ignored.

 

[IBDaMann]

It is quite humorous that those who are the most ignorant on the Bible are those who profess to be Bible thumping Christians.

Stupid. There aren't any Christians who refer to themselves by a slur.

 

[IBDaMann]

There is no such thing as a 'militant atheist'.

Spot on.

Atheists don't bother with the Bible much. There is no point to an atheist.

I reference the Bible occasionally; there are a lot of good analogies that are also moderately well known. I also reference the Bible more when I'm talking to a Christian.

However, I will concede that I don't reference the Bible for life issues really all that much.

Nope. Just takes reading it, and desiring to know the truth of it, and praying for that.

I don't do the praying thing, so I defer to Christians as to what understanding their prayers give them.

 

[IBDaMann]

..., when you start encountering the most militant of atheists,

You are a moron.

they start treating the entire Bible as literal and factual analytical history.

You are an idiot.

It's an easy straw man to set up and knock down.

You are gullible.

It actually takes work, integrity, and rationality to be impartial and practice the methods of literary criticism and to recognize literary style to get anything meaningful out of the Bible.

Since you are without integrity or education, where does that leave you?

So the takeaway is that militant Atheists and evangelical Bible thumpers tend to be the least rational and least empirical of posters.

So ... just turn to you for the correct answers, yes?