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Maybe this novel new engine will make the difference, it is claimed to be up to four times more efficient than piston engines.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/11/new-gasoline-engine-design-has-4x-efficiency-of-pistons/
APP - I'm starting to change my mind on ethanol.
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Maybe this novel new engine will make the difference, it is claimed to be up to four times more efficient than piston engines.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/04/11/new-gasoline-engine-design-has-4x-efficiency-of-pistons/
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It's very early days but who knows what it could evolve into, in the future? I can see this being an excellent technology for future hybrid vehicles.
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Not true. It is rediculously simple to add gasous fuel to existing cars. Conversion to alcohol requires replacement of all non-compatible components.
Ethanol wasn't the only option discarded. In Henry Ford's time, 1/3 of all vehicles were electric. The edison battery is still manufactured today and are known to have a life span of 100 years or more.
Unfortunately the production of edison batteries was moved to China shortly after Richard Nixons visit there.
Edison was very surprised when massive amounts of battery orders were canceled by Detroit.
Electric cars could replace the vast majority of cars at this time, reserving the uuse of natural gas for trucks primarily.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
??????.....I hesitate to respond to new posters before they've passed the Legion DNA test, but.......did you post this because you don't know anything about automobiles?.....
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
Modifications to existing cars is a non-issue. Folks buy new cars all the time, and the rate of attrition far exceeds the speed that the fuel distribution system can change. New cars will use the new fuels while older cars will use the older fuels.
New? They just changed their name. Go to the profile and look at the username history.
/MSG/
Uwaa OmO
Almost all natgas conversions still allow you to use gas with the simple flip of a switch.
Natural gas burns cleaner. Not only helping the enviroment, but the engine lasts much longer as well. Additionaly we have abundant amounts of natural gas domesticaly.
Even if I was legion I would still know more about engines, fuel, and most anything else than you.
/MSG/
Uwaa OmO
It burns at a higher rate and isn't really any easier on the engine. Might burn cleaner, but if you have to use more of it in the same trip as gasoline (around 30% power reduction typically) than a lot of the environmental savings are kinda negated.
Nah, it really does burn that much cleaner, so much so that addition use is negated and then some, and engine wear is drasticlly reduced, almost to the point of non-existance. Sound like you don't have much actual experience with natural gas.
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Uwaa OmO
I'd say I've a great deal of experience with it. My company used to do the conversions before they because unpopular. We've also done all the conversion removal after the customers were unsatisfied with natgas performance.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
So, which is cheaper?
/MSG/
Uwaa OmO
Natgas is cheaper if you can find a filling station.
For the planet or the consumer? Long term or short term? There is no fuel cost saving from using natural gas, but the engine will suffer almost no internal wear. Additionaly gasous fuel does not require costly carburation or fuel injection of the type liquid fuel requires.
Minister of Truth
Practically Perfect
Consumer, but its nice to know its low maintenance.
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Uwaa OmO
It's not low maintenance. It requires the same (or more) level as a regular gasoline using car. But cost per gallon is significantly lower (nat gas here is around 79 cents a gallon).