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Robo

Robo

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If Republicans and Democrats, (elected or just voting supporters), really gave a damn about America’s healthcare and our Constitution, they’d repeal all federal healthcare programs because they’re not constitutional, (see amendment 10, United States Constitution), and distribute all federal collected money therewith to the States and or the people and support amendment 10 and simply allow the States and or the people to decide and or institute their own healthcare programs.

Also, every dime of healthcare money spent on healthcare and healthcare insurance should be exempt from all federal and State income taxation.

Furthermore, the only authority the federal government has over healthcare is the regulation of the commerce of it among the several States. Thus, Congress should pass and the President should sign legislation making interstate commerce of healthcare insurance a legal right of the customer.
 
There's no need to drag mention of 'the Constitution' into every social discussion. The document is an outdated, and severely flawed concoction going back to the moment the ink dried.
 
Althea said:
There's no need to drag mention of 'the Constitution' into every social discussion. The document is an outdated, and severely flawed concoctiois going back to the moment the ink dried.
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Then in your opinion you have no inalienable rights, the three branches of government are null and void, the Bill of Rights is just a flawed concoction and totally invalid respecting the governing of the nation, correct?
 
Robo said:
Then in your opinion you have no inalienable rights, the three branches of government are null and void, the Bill of Rights is just a flawed concoction and totally invalid respecting the governing of the nation, correct?
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Silly, silly child.
 
Althea said:
Do you believe the Founders wanted the govt involved in internal combustion engine emissions?
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not at all, but do you believe the founders wanted the govt involved in peoples individual medical care or the weapons they would own and carry? or who they could and couldn't marry?
 
Robo said:
If Republicans and Democrats, (elected or just voting supporters), really gave a damn about America’s healthcare and our Constitution, they’d repeal all federal healthcare programs because they’re not constitutional, (see amendment 10, United States Constitution), and distribute all federal collected money therewith to the States and or the people and support amendment 10 and simply allow the States and or the people to decide and or institute their own healthcare programs.

Also, every dime of healthcare money spent on healthcare and healthcare insurance should be exempt from all federal and State income taxation.

Furthermore, the only authority the federal government has over healthcare is the regulation of the commerce of it among the several States. Thus, Congress should pass and the President should sign legislation making interstate commerce of healthcare insurance a legal right of the customer.
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GENERAL WELFARE CLAUSE. Article I, section 8 of the U. S. Constitution grants Congress the power to "lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts, and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States."
 
Robo said:
Then in your opinion you have no inalienable rights, the three branches of government are null and void, the Bill of Rights is just a flawed concoction and totally invalid respecting the governing of the nation, correct?
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The Constitution and Bill of Rights say nothing about inalienable rights. It's a bullshit concept. Failure.
 
Robo said:
If Republicans and Democrats, (elected or just voting supporters), really gave a damn about America’s healthcare and our Constitution, they’d repeal all federal healthcare programs because they’re not constitutional, (see amendment 10, United States Constitution), and distribute all federal collected money therewith to the States and or the people and support amendment 10 and simply allow the States and or the people to decide and or institute their own healthcare programs.

Also, every dime of healthcare money spent on healthcare and healthcare insurance should be exempt from all federal and State income taxation.

Furthermore, the only authority the federal government has over healthcare is the regulation of the commerce of it among the several States. Thus, Congress should pass and the President should sign legislation making interstate commerce of healthcare insurance a legal right of the customer.
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that would be proper, just and lawful. it is not insane. it would never be accepted by the voters.
 
domer76 said:
GENERAL WELFARE CLAUSE. Article I, section 8 of the U. S. Constitution grants Congress the power to "lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts, and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common defense and general Welfare of the United States."
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The General Welfare is those things enumerated in the Constitution not every whim and want of the Congress or the majority mob.

If You truly believe that the General Welfare clause gives the feds the authority to operate and mandate a healthcare program, then you'll need to explain WHAT in the name of the General Welfare the feds CAN'T do.

As Jefferson noted and opined about the General Welfare clause the clause would trump the rest of the Constitution if interpreted to allow Congress to do whatever they wanted.

Here's Jefferson's interpretation of the General Welfare clause

Thomas Jefferson Opinion on Constitutional Interpretation Date: February 15, 1791

“They are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare , but only to lay taxes for that purpose. To consider the latter phrase not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless. It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as they sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please . . . . Certainly no such universal power was meant to be given them. It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect.
 
domer76 said:
The Constitution and Bill of Rights say nothing about inalienable rights. It's a bullshit concept. Failure.
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The Declaration Of Independence says We are endowed with Certain Inalienable Rights. The Declaration is the REASONING for the Constitution. The Declaration along with the Constitution are the nations founding documents and the very basic and founding principles of the nation.

If you don't believe you have inalienable rights, you're simply a slave to government. If that's your determination, you're a fucking idiot!
 
iewitness said:
that would be proper, just and lawful. it is not insane. it would never be accepted by the voters.
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I know! It's shameful. We're a nation of pussy faced morons brgging for BIG daddy and Mommy government to make it "all better." The days of American rugged individualism is rendered to a mere foot note.
 
Robo said:
The General Welfare is those things enumerated in the Constitution not every whim and want of the Congress or the majority mob.

If You truly believe that the General Welfare clause gives the feds the authority to operate and mandate a healthcare program, then you'll need to explain WHAT in the name of the General Welfare the feds CAN'T do.

As Jefferson noted and opined about the General Welfare clause the clause would trump the rest of the Constitution if interpreted to allow Congress to do whatever they wanted.

Here's Jefferson's interpretation of the General Welfare clause

Thomas Jefferson Opinion on Constitutional Interpretation Date: February 15, 1791

“They are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare , but only to lay taxes for that purpose. To consider the latter phrase not as describing the purpose of the first, but as giving a distinct and independent power to do any act they please which may be good for the Union, would render all the preceding and subsequent enumerations of power completely useless. It would reduce the whole instrument to a single phrase, that of instituting a Congress with power to do whatever would be for the good of the United States; and as they sole judges of the good or evil, it would be also a power to do whatever evil they please . . . . Certainly no such universal power was meant to be given them. It was intended to lace them up straightly within the enumerated powers and those without which, as means, these powers could not be carried into effect.
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Jefferson is dead. Get your head out of your ass and the 18th century.
 
Robo said:
The Declaration Of Independence says We are endowed with Certain Inalienable Rights. The Declaration is the REASONING for the Constitution. The Declaration along with the Constitution are the nations founding documents and the very basic and founding principles of the nation.

If you don't believe you have inalienable rights, you're simply a slave to government. If that's your determination, you're a fucking idiot!
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Lovely document, that Declaration. It's just not law, is it, dimwit?
 
SmarterthanYou said:
the failure is on you, your bullshit concept of what the constitution and bill of rights is supposed to do.
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Dimwit, find "inalienable rights" in either the Constitution or Bill of Rights and I'll kiss your ass on Main Street. Otherwise, you either do the same or shut the fuck up.
 
domer76 said:
Dimwit, find "inalienable rights" in either the Constitution or Bill of Rights and I'll kiss your ass on Main Street. Otherwise, you either do the same or shut the fuck up.
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you still hold to your ignorance. tell us what YOU think the constitution and bill of rights does.......just tell us.
 
domer76 said:
Jefferson is dead. Get your head out of your ass and the 18th century.
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As usual you have no relevant arguments, you've been rendered irrelevant to this thread. Go spread your childish absurdities elsewhere, commie.
 
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