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NOVA said:
this guy obviously did not see Whittaker putting anything in his pocket ?

But he may have thought he did......who tf are you, god ? You never made a mistake ?

With pinheads, it seems everything in the world is about race....it time to get over your race based narrow-minded thinking.
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It has nothing to do with him making a mistake. He has no right to frisk anyone. He's not God or a cop.

I have made no comment on the issue of race.
 
Dr. Krieger said:
you did. you responded to my initial comment asking how one could frisk someone without being racist. You said call a cop. But calling a cop doesn't make the person or the situation less racist.
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No, I did not. I said the person had no right frisk anyone regardless of race.

You asked how someone might frisk a black person without being called racist. Any illegal or improper search on a black person is going to be suspected of racist intent. If the search is warranted then that claim would be diminished. This guy had absolutely no business frisking Whittaker or anyone else.
 
Dr. Krieger said:
what if you mistakingly think they put an item in their pocket? Tough shit? Let the person possibly steal?
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Sometimes I really wonder about you. Don't you know any black people? I guess living in Boston really does make you fucked up. Boston is one of the most racist cities in the north if you ask me, and one of the most effed up. My brother almost got killed there by cops and he's white. If he was black he'd have been dead 10 years now.

Black people come under suspicion because they are black, not because someone made a mistake, don't you fucking get it? Talk to some black people, a guy your age should have more than just white friends. You might learn something. Try putting yourself into someone else's shoes. You are getting more and more Superfreak and that is really scary, because he's an asshole. And his age group Gen X, really doesn't think that way either, but there are enough idiots in it that he can kind of just hang on. There is no room in the world being shaped by your generation, for superfreaks. So you are really going to be out of the loop. A throwback.
 
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Howey said:
Are Obama's policies that much different than Bush or any other president? I think not. I cannot think of any reason, other than bigotry, for such a rise in hate groups in the past four years.

If it was due to his policies, wouldn't the number of registered Republicans rise exponentially?
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Explain all the groups that hated Bush that arose during his Presidency.

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/news/us-hate-groups-top-1000
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LMAO...

Taken together, these three strands of the radical right – hate groups, nativist extremist groups and Patriot organizations – increased from 1,753 groups in 2009 to 2,145 in 2010, a 22 percent rise. That followed a 2008-09 increase of 40 percent.
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the fact that they are labeling militia groups and Patriot organizations as 'hate' groups and the fact that from your quote the most dramatic growth came from Patriot Groups, I don't think you have proven your point. A Patriot group is not necessarily a hate group. Labeling them all as such just shows that the SPLC is biased.

Also, saying their number rose exponentially is an extreme exaggeration. For one, it went up by about 160% in terms of number of groups. For another, how many people are in each group? This brings me back to my earlier point... if you go from 10 to 50, that is really not that big of a deal. If you go from 10 to 50 million, that is a big deal. It is easier to get high percentage increases when the total base number is low.
 
Rana said:
It is not everyone, but to deny that there are those who do hate him because he is black, is just as ignorant and is a blatant lie.
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Who has stated that there aren't ANY people that hate him due to race? Our point is that it is absurd to proclaim that 'most or all' people disagree with him due to race.
 
Sir Digby Chicken Caesar said:
You dont have any right to accost others. But this guy obviously did not see Whittaker putting anything in his pocket. And that's the problem. I don't really know why Whittaker submitted to it.
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He 'obviously did not see'? Are you saying that because he didn't find anything or because you know for sure what he thought he saw?
 
Howey said:
So you're saying all these fringe groups don't mean shit? Does that include the teabaggers?
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I am asking you to back up your claim that they have risen in number 'exponentially'. Thus far you have shown the number of groups has risen based on the fact that the source you are using is labeling Patriot groups as 'hate groups'. Which is nonsense.

As for hate itself, you clearly hate the tea party people. Perhaps you should work on your own hate issues?
 
Superfreak said:
He 'obviously did not see'? Are you saying that because he didn't find anything or because you know for sure what he thought he saw?
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Because he did not find anything. What he may thought he saw does not do anything for the argument that he should be free to frisk people. It weakens that argument. But I don't have any clue what he though he saw or claims to think he saw. The story is a little light on those details.

There needs to be probable cause and a clerk at a deli is not likely to be a good judge of that. If there is not then it will be applied in a biased way and race will be a common factor.
 
Thing1 said:
Just to clear up what seems to be a rather confused dispute: he would not have gotten frisked if he was white.

No way, no how.
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There's a stigma attached his skin tone, unfortunately, but it's not without some good reason. Violent crimes involving African-Americans have, and always will be, quite prominent within the US.
 
Dr. Krieger said:
Can someone please explain to me, when it is acceptable to frisk an african american, without it being racist?
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When they have comitted a crime or it is protocol, like when being around the Preident, pretty much act like they are white.
 
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