Inhumanity & School

You can quote me on that, though, "Like the fire in the sun". It makes so little sense as a metaphor that it can be used for almost any reason. Very adaptable. That's probably why I stole it from Bob Dylan.
 
OrnotBitwise said:
You know, I think I may have done you a disservice by being too brief. While it's true that we are tremendously adapatable and our behavior is conditioned by our culture to an enromous degree it is NOT true that we are infinitely adaptable. That is to say there are some things that simply won't work, no matter how hard you try.

Our primate ancestry imposes some limits on what social experiments we can try. Those boundaries are hard to see -- until they're transgressed -- but they're definitely there. This is what's wrong with both dogmatic Marxism and dogmatic Libertarianism: both are based on models of human behavior that are outside the parameters of what humans can do. Remarkably similar models, ironically enough.
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I understand what you are saying. Though I did read it three times! :)

It's a very interesting dicussion/debate, I think.
 
Watermark said:
I remember in elementary school and middle school I was constantly picked on. I woke up and didn't want to go to school and cried often. My grades dropped as soon as it all picked up in 4th grade... I've averaged like B to C ever since. Of course, now I realize that I pretty much acted like an idiot the whole time, considered everyone in the world wrong except for me, and refused to talk to people, which probably contributed to it signifigantly.

I was also one of the "follower" geeks who had to gather around this one big "leader" geek. I really despise such people now, ironically enough. The weird thing about being in groups like that is that no ones friends with you except for the "leader". I don't know why people choose to do that and I don't know why I did. I was just very awkward and looking for somewhere to fit in. Also, my voice before puberty was just ridiculous and made everything I said sound like I was retarded, whether or not it was the most intelligent, eloquent series of words ever produced by a person.

Of course, everyone didn't have to laugh at me. It was pretty obvious that little of that was my fault. But the way I responded to it was my fault. I became angry if someone rejected me, and if I did something that annoyed someone and became embarrassed by it I would just do it over and over again, as if to punish them for embarrassing me.

My high school years were about a gajillion times better. I grew out of the entire socialist I must save the world phase and became an independent liberal. Of course, the one big thing that's always dominated high school is the girl I've liked since sophomore year who won't ever like me back. Why, have you ever felt a cold shock whenever someone enters the room? And ironically, if you haven't seen them for a while it seems like the happiest moment of your life. Then, of course, you realize that they came here and could hardly care less that you feel happy to see them, like the fire in the sun (Bob Dylan quote, guys). And honestly, the woman absolutely despises me, and I really can't blame her.
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Water, your last paragraph, we've all been there.
 
Darla said:
I understand what you are saying. Though I did read it three times! :)

It's a very interesting dicussion/debate, I think.
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It's the only debate that really matters, in the long run. That's what I genuinely what I believe: for once, I'm not joking.

What are the limits of our human heritage? We don't know. All of us talk about it and most of us think we know where the boundaries lie, more or less, but we're all full of fecal material. Pretty much equally so. :)
 
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