American Society of Virology largest organization of virologist, 2,500 members support mRNA research and vaccines.

“The American Society for Virology (ASV) has grown to a membership of over 2,500 members, primarily from the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, with increasing international membership. The society was founded in 1981 and has become one of the largest virology societies in the world. Cornell University Wikipedia

The American Society for Virology supports mRNA research as part of its commitment to advancing the field of virology and public health. This includes promoting the development and deployment of mRNA vaccines, which have been recognized as significant biomedical innovations in responding to viral threats. University of Minnesota EurekAlert
Science is now corrupt enough that this does not mean anything....science money is control by the government.....scientists that dont do as they are told do not get funding......in recent years they have also had their careers deliberately destroyed by the Faucies of the system.
 
But if you start off by taking out the central theory of disease which has seen a near doubling of human lifespans in a couple generations

It seems to me that you are talking about the germ theory of disease, so I have responded in the appropriate thread, here to be precise:
 
Science is now corrupt enough that this does not mean anything....science money is control by the government.....scientists that dont do as they are told do not get funding......in recent years they have also had their careers deliberately destroyed by the Faucies of the system.

So true. Robert Kennedy Jr. actually wrote a book on Anthony Faucy's role in the corruption of healthcare, which I purchased. Here's the description on Amazon for his book:
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#1 on AMAZON, TWENTY WEEKS on the NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER LIST, and a WALL STREET JOURNAL, USA TODAY and PUBLISHERS WEEKLY NATIONAL BESTSELLER

Over 1,000,000 copies sold despite censorship, boycotts from bookstores and libraries, and hit pieces against the author.

Pharma-funded mainstream media has convinced millions of Americans that Dr. Anthony Fauci is a hero. Hands down, he is anything but.

As director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), Dr. Anthony Fauci dispenses $6.1 billion in annual taxpayer-provided funding for rigged scientific research, allowing him to dictate the subject, content, and outcome of scientific health research across the globe—truly a dark agenda. Fauci uses the financial clout at his disposal in a back handed manner to wield extraordinary influence over hospitals, universities, journals, and thousands of influential doctors and scientists—whose careers and institutions he has the power to ruin, advance, or reward in an authoritarian manner.

During more than a year of painstaking and meticulous research on his laptop and through interviews, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. unearthed a shocking story that obliterates media spin on Dr. Fauci . . . and that will alarm every American—Democrat or Republican—who cares about democracy, our Constitution, and the future of our children’s health.

The Real Anthony Fauci reveals how “America’s Doctor” launched his career during the early AIDS crisis by partnering with pharmaceutical companies to sabotage safe and effective off-patent therapeutic treatments for AIDS. Fauci orchestrated fraudulent do-nothing studies, and then pressured US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulators into approving a deadly chemotherapy treatment he had good reason to know was worthless against AIDS. Fauci did the unthinkable and repeatedly violated federal laws to allow his Pharma partners to use impoverished and dark-skinned children as lab rats in beyond order, deadly experiments with toxic AIDS and cancer chemotherapies.

In early 2000, Fauci shook hands with Bill Gates in the library of Gates’ $147 million Seattle mansion, cementing a partnership that would aim to control an increasingly profitable $60 billion global vaccine enterprise with unlimited growth potential. Through funding leverage and carefully cultivated personal relationships with heads of state and leading media and social media institutions, the Pharma-Fauci-Gates alliance exercises dominion over global health policy and our beautiful country.

This is not just another political book. The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their cohorts use their control of media outlets—both conservative and liberal leaning, scientific journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies, global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and ruthlessly censor dissent.

**

Source:

Incidentally, when Fauci first came on the scene, back when Covid 19 was just getting started, I still believed in vaccines and I too thought that Fauci was a hero. Time can certainly change a person's beliefs.
 
So true. Robert Kennedy Jr. actually wrote a book on Anthony Faucy's role in the corruption of healthcare, which I purchased. Here's the description on Amazon for his book:
**
#1 on AMAZON, TWENTY WEEKS on the NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER LIST, and a WALL STREET JOURNAL, USA TODAY and PUBLISHERS WEEKLY NATIONAL BESTSELLER

Over 1,000,000 copies sold despite censorship, boycotts from bookstores and libraries, and hit pieces against the author.

Pharma-funded mainstream media has convinced millions of Americans that Dr. Anthony Fauci is a hero. Hands down, he is anything but.

As director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), Dr. Anthony Fauci dispenses $6.1 billion in annual taxpayer-provided funding for rigged scientific research, allowing him to dictate the subject, content, and outcome of scientific health research across the globe—truly a dark agenda. Fauci uses the financial clout at his disposal in a back handed manner to wield extraordinary influence over hospitals, universities, journals, and thousands of influential doctors and scientists—whose careers and institutions he has the power to ruin, advance, or reward in an authoritarian manner.

During more than a year of painstaking and meticulous research on his laptop and through interviews, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. unearthed a shocking story that obliterates media spin on Dr. Fauci . . . and that will alarm every American—Democrat or Republican—who cares about democracy, our Constitution, and the future of our children’s health.

The Real Anthony Fauci reveals how “America’s Doctor” launched his career during the early AIDS crisis by partnering with pharmaceutical companies to sabotage safe and effective off-patent therapeutic treatments for AIDS. Fauci orchestrated fraudulent do-nothing studies, and then pressured US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulators into approving a deadly chemotherapy treatment he had good reason to know was worthless against AIDS. Fauci did the unthinkable and repeatedly violated federal laws to allow his Pharma partners to use impoverished and dark-skinned children as lab rats in beyond order, deadly experiments with toxic AIDS and cancer chemotherapies.

In early 2000, Fauci shook hands with Bill Gates in the library of Gates’ $147 million Seattle mansion, cementing a partnership that would aim to control an increasingly profitable $60 billion global vaccine enterprise with unlimited growth potential. Through funding leverage and carefully cultivated personal relationships with heads of state and leading media and social media institutions, the Pharma-Fauci-Gates alliance exercises dominion over global health policy and our beautiful country.

This is not just another political book. The Real Anthony Fauci details how Fauci, Gates, and their cohorts use their control of media outlets—both conservative and liberal leaning, scientific journals, key government and quasi-governmental agencies, global intelligence agencies, and influential scientists and physicians to flood the public with fearful propaganda about COVID-19 virulence and pathogenesis, and to muzzle debate and ruthlessly censor dissent.

**

Source:

Incidentally, when Fauci first came on the scene, back when Covid 19 was just getting started, I still believed in vaccines and I too thought that Fauci was a hero. Time can certainly change a person's beliefs.
Bret and Heather talk about this often, often focusing how science went wrong at the Universities, a story of the corruption of funding and the exploitation of the science workforce.
 
I don't know Bret and Heather, but they seem to know what they're talking about :-)
Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying....scientists who have been together since their teens......they do the Darkhorse podcast along with other things.

I have spent a few hundred hours listening to them....originally about COVID but I had heard of them before that....as they were thrown out of Evergreen University here in Olympia....running afoul of the WOKE.
 
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Science is now corrupt enough that this does not mean anything....science money is control by the government.....scientists that dont do as they are told do not get funding......in recent years they have also had their careers deliberately destroyed by the Faucies of the system.
So, you have stopped going to a doctor? You aren’t on any medications!
 
American Society of Virology largest organization of virologist, 2,500 members support mRNA research and vaccines.

“The American Society for Virology (ASV) has grown to a membership of over 2,500 members, primarily from the U.S., Canada, and Mexico, with increasing international membership. The society was founded in 1981 and has become one of the largest virology societies in the world. Cornell University Wikipedia

The American Society for Virology supports mRNA research as part of its commitment to advancing the field of virology and public health. This includes promoting the development and deployment of mRNA vaccines, which have been recognized as significant biomedical innovations in responding to viral threats. University of Minnesota EurekAlert
"we're totally not fake" -- American Society of Virology
 
Science is now corrupt enough that this does not mean anything....science money is control by the government.....scientists that dont do as they are told do not get funding......in recent years they have also had their careers deliberately destroyed by the Faucies of the system.
There is a process that research has to go through to get govt. funding. https://unbreaking.org/issues/medical-research-funding/ Trump's DOGE idiots did a crappy job of budget and personnel gutting. We are less safe than we were before Daffy got back in office.
 
Apparently, he doesn’t believe the majority of virologist support germ theory, mRNA research and vaccines.

No, I said that you hadn't proven that the "majority of the scientific community in the field" disagreed with the researchers and doctors in the "Inside the mRNA vaccines" documentary. I see virologists as similar to scientologists. Both -claim- they are science based, but neither of them actually are.
 
No, I said that you hadn't proven that the "majority of the scientific community in the field" disagreed with the researchers and doctors in the "Inside the mRNA vaccines" documentary. I see virologists as similar to scientologists. Both -claim- they are science based, but neither of them actually are.
yeah.

the scientific community is full of nurses and techs that are based as fuck.

of course all heads of stuff are paid to lie.

the solution is with the people.

Key Quotes by Winston Smith Regarding the Proles​

Importance of the Proles​

  • "If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated."

Perception of Reality​

  • "The future is hers... we are the dead."

Understanding Power Dynamics​

  • "The Party could not be overthrown from within. Its enemies, if it had any enemies, had no way of coming together or even of identifying one another."

Reflection on Control​

  • "But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire."
These quotes highlight Winston's belief that the proles hold the potential for change, yet they remain unaware of their own power.
 
There is a process that research has to go through to get govt. funding.

I haven't seen anyone dispute that. The issue is whether that process has produced good results. I'd say that as a whole, it has not. Here's the introduction to RFK Jr.'s book, "The Real Anthony Fauci":
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INTRODUCTION
“The first step is to give up the illusion that the primary purpose of modern medical research is to improve Americans’ health most effectively and efficiently. In our opinion, the primary purpose of commercially funded clinical research is to maximize financial return on investment, not health.” —John Abramson, M.D., Harvard Medical School

I wrote this book to help Americans—and citizens across the globe—understand the historical underpinnings of the bewildering cataclysm that began in 2020. In that single annus horribilis, liberal democracy effectively collapsed worldwide. The very governmental health regulators, social media eminences, and media companies that idealistic populations relied upon as champions of freedom, health, democracy, civil rights, and evidence-based public policy seemed to collectively pivot in a lockstep assault against free speech and personal freedoms.

Suddenly, those trusted institutions seemed to be acting in concert to generate fear, promote obedience, discourage critical thinking, and herd seven billion people to march to a single tune, culminating in mass public health experiments with a novel, shoddily tested and improperly licensed technology so risky that manufacturers refused to produce it unless every government on Earth shielded them from liability.

Across Western nations, shell-shocked citizens experienced all the well-worn tactics of rising totalitarianism—mass propaganda and censorship, the orchestrated promotion of terror, the manipulation of science, the suppression of debate, the vilification of dissent, and use of force to prevent protest. Conscientious objectors who resisted these unwanted, experimental, zero-liability medical interventions faced orchestrated gaslighting, marginalization, and scapegoating.

American lives and livelihoods were shattered by a bewildering array of draconian diktats imposed without legislative approval or judicial review, risk assessment, or scientific citation. So-called Emergency Orders closed our businesses, schools and churches, made unprecedented intrusions into privacy, and disrupted our most treasured social and family relationships. Citizens the world over were ordered to stay in their homes.

Standing in the center of all the mayhem, with his confident hand on the helm, was one dominating figure. As the trusted public face of the United States government response to COVID, Dr. Anthony Fauci set this perilous course and sold the American public on a new destination for our democracy.

This book is a product of my own struggle to understand how the idealistic institutions our country built to safeguard both public health and democracy suddenly turned against our citizens and our values with such violence. I am a lifelong Democrat, whose family has had eighty years of deep engagement with America’s public health bureaucracy and long friendships with key federal regulators, including Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins, and Robert Gallo. Members of my family wrote many of the statutes under which these men govern, nurtured the growth of equitable and effective public health policies, and defended that regulatory bulwark against ferocious attacks funded by industry—and often executed by Republican-controlled congressional committees intent on defunding and defanging these agencies to make them more “industry friendly.” I built alliances with these individuals and their agencies during my years of environmental and public health advocacy. I watched them, often with admiration. But I also watched how the industry, supposedly being regulated, used its indentured servants on Capitol Hill to systematically hollow out those agencies beginning in 1980, disabling their regulatory functions and transforming them, finally, into sock-puppets for the very industry Congress charged them with regulating.

My 40-year career as an environmental and public health advocate gave me a unique understanding of the corrupting mechanisms of “regulatory capture,” the process by which the regulator becomes beholden to the industry it’s meant to regulate. I spent four decades suing the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and other environmental agencies to expose and remedy the corrupt sweetheart relationship that so often puts regulators in bed with the polluting industries they regulated. Among the hundreds of lawsuits I filed, perhaps a quarter were against regulatory officials making illegal concessions to Big Oil, King Coal, and the chemical and agricultural polluters that had captured their loyalties. I thought I knew everything about regulatory capture and that I had armored myself with an appropriate shield of cynicism.

But I was wrong about that. From the moment of my reluctant entrance into the vaccine debate in 2005, I was astonished to realize that the pervasive web of deep financial entanglements between Pharma and the government health agencies had put regulatory capture on steroids. The CDC, for example, owns 57 vaccine patents1 and spends $4.9 of its $12.0 billion-dollar annual budget (as of 2019) buying and distributing vaccines.2,3 NIH owns hundreds of vaccine patents and often profits from the sale of products it supposedly regulates. High level officials, including Dr. Fauci, receive yearly emoluments of up to $150,000 in royalty payments on products that they help develop and then usher through the approval process.4 The FDA receives 45 percent of its budget from the pharmaceutical industry, through what are euphemistically called “user fees.”5 When I learned that extraordinary fact, the disastrous health of the American people was no longer a mystery; I wondered what the environment would look like if the EPA received 45 percent of its budget from the coal industry!

Today many of my liberal chums are still crouched in a knee jerk posture defending “our” agencies against Republican slanders and budget cuts, never quite realizing how thoroughly the decades of attacks succeeded in transforming those agencies into subsidiaries of Big Pharma.

In this book, I track the rise of Anthony Fauci from his start as a young public health researcher and physician through his metamorphosis into the powerful technocrat who helped orchestrate and execute 2020’s historic coup d’état against Western democracy. I explore the carefully planned militarization and monetization of medicine that has left American health ailing and its democracy shattered. I chronicle the troubling role of the dangerous concentrated mainstream media, Big Tech robber barons, the military and intelligence communities and their deep historical alliances with Big Pharma and public health agencies. The disturbing story that unfolds here has never been told, and many in power have worked hard to prevent the public from learning it. The main character is Anthony Fauci.

**

Source: Kennedy Jr., Robert F. . The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health (Children’s Health Defense) (pp. 1-3). (Function). Kindle Edition.

Now, you may say that Anthony Fauci is no longer in charge, but Big Pharma and all the other organizations mentioned above certainly are. I think RFK Jr. has had some success in improving the situation, but it takes time.
 
yeah.

the scientific community is full of nurses and techs that are based as fuck.

of course all heads of stuff are paid to lie.

the solution is with the people.

Key Quotes by Winston Smith Regarding the Proles​

Importance of the Proles​

  • "If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated."

Perception of Reality​

  • "The future is hers... we are the dead."

Understanding Power Dynamics​

  • "The Party could not be overthrown from within. Its enemies, if it had any enemies, had no way of coming together or even of identifying one another."

Reflection on Control​

  • "But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire."
These quotes highlight Winston's belief that the proles hold the potential for change, yet they remain unaware of their own power.

I agree the solution is with the masses, but first the masses need to be informed to know what they can do to make things better. I do what I can there.
 
I agree the solution is with the masses, but first the masses need to be informed to know what they can do to make things better. I do what I can there.
yes.

step 1 is always raising awareness.

people unwilling to even do that are actually on the other side... and hate humanity.... and are Nazi globalist humanity haters.
 
yes.

step 1 is always raising awareness.

people unwilling to even do that are actually on the other side... and hate humanity.... and are Nazi globalist humanity haters.

To raise awareness, you first need to be aware yourself. The problem with many is that when it comes to vaccines, their awareness of the harms they cause isn't exactly stellar.
 
To raise awareness, you first need to be aware yourself. The problem with many is that when it comes to vaccines, their awareness of the harms they cause isn't exactly stellar.
they don't want to hear.

they bad people concerned only about their 401 and stocks.

those deeply committed to evil often cannot change.
 
To raise awareness, you first need to be aware yourself. The problem with many is that when it comes to vaccines, their awareness of the harms they cause isn't exactly stellar.
nah.

just blabbing generally about the multimodal fascist nazi horror of big pharma is actually helpful.
 
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