Inside mRNA Vaccines: The Movie

Scott said:
Just finished watching the film that shares the title of this thread. As some here know, I no longer believe in biological viruses, so I don't agree with that part of the documentary, but the focus is on the mRNA vaccines, and I thought that part was quite well done, including some video testimonials of some who have shown clear signs of being injured from these vaccines. Anyway, the film can be seen free of charge here:
www.thefocalpoints.com

Inside mRNA Vaccines: The Movie

This hard-hitting film rips the lid off the disastrous mRNA rollout — with stunning 3D animation and unfiltered testimony from the world’s leading experts.
www.thefocalpoints.com www.thefocalpoints.com

Constructive feedback welcome.
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One thing that's mentioned in the video is myocarditis in young males as a symptom of the Covid vaccines. Sars Cov-2 was a very low risk for young males, so some parents decided to not get their young, male kids vaccinated.

Myocarditis is also a symptom of the Sars Cov-2, which the mRNA vaccines mimics.....

despite the fact that Sars Cov-2 doesn't actually exist.

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ZenMode said:
One thing that's mentioned in the video is myocarditis in young males as a symptom of the Covid vaccines. Sars Cov-2 was a very low risk for young males, so some parents decided to not get their young, male kids vaccinated.

Myocarditis is also a symptom of the Sars Cov-2, which the mRNA vaccines mimics.....

despite the fact that Sars Cov-2 doesn't actually exist.

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I can certainly believe that those who believe in the Sars Cov-2 virus can believe that myocarditis is a symptom of having this alleged virus. I've just seen no solid evidence that this alleged virus exists- or any other virus for that matter. But I've found that there are some who just believe that the Sars Cov-2 virus doesn't exist. For those people, or for those people willing to consider that just this one virus alone doesn't exist, I think this is a good article:
off-guardian.org

COVID19 – Evidence Of Global Fraud

Iain Davis COVID 19, and the subsequent governmental responses, appear to be part of an international conspiracy to commit fraud. It seems there is no evidence that a virus called SARS-CoV-2 causes…
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Scott said:
I can certainly believe that those who believe in the Sars Cov-2 virus can believe that myocarditis is a symptom of having this alleged virus. I've just seen no solid evidence that this alleged virus exists- or any other virus for that matter. But I've found that there are some who just believe that the Sars Cov-2 virus doesn't exist. For those people, or for those people willing to consider that just this one virus alone doesn't exist, I think this is a good article:
off-guardian.org

COVID19 – Evidence Of Global Fraud

Iain Davis COVID 19, and the subsequent governmental responses, appear to be part of an international conspiracy to commit fraud. It seems there is no evidence that a virus called SARS-CoV-2 causes…
off-guardian.org off-guardian.org
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I don't need to believe in Sars Cov-2 to believe in myocarditis. I do believe in Sars Cov-2 because the evidence overwhelmingly shows that it exists, while you believe that there is a worldwide, decades-long conspiracy by "them" to lie to the world and convince us that viruses exist when they actually don't.

You've said previously that you don't believe there is a grand conspiracy, by "them" to trick the world regarding Covid. You've said that it's more or less laziness and as lack of doing the work today that has allowed the biological virus lie to continue for decades. That being the case, I'm curious how you explain this......

Over a weekend, multiple independent and competing companies, around the world, all did their own independent analysis of the Covid virus and developed a COVID vaccine. They all performed clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people to test the effectiveness of the vaccine and all had data on the results of those clinical trials. Multiple independent, and often competing, companies developed and tested products to test individuals for Covid. Case and mortality data was collected from hundreds of thousands of medical entities and reported around the world. Based on that reported data, goverments, businesses, school districts, etc around the world tracked that data and made decisions on restrictions/lockdowns.

So, explain how all of the independent medical and government entities made this happen just by chance, with no coordination.

For example, how did the people conducting the clinical trials and collecting data all just happen to get on the same page? They all had to fake data, but all did it on their own initiative ?
 
ZenMode said:
I don't need to believe in Sars Cov-2 to believe in myocarditis.
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Same.

ZenMode said:
I do believe in Sars Cov-2 because the evidence overwhelmingly shows that it exists
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Here is where we disagree.

ZenMode said:
while you believe that there is a worldwide, decades-long conspiracy by "them" to lie to the world and convince us that viruses exist when they actually don't.
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No, that's not what I believe. Even the author of the article I referenced only believes that fraud is being committed for the Cov 2 virus- said author still believes in other viruses. I believe that most people who believe that biological viruses exist believe this sincerely. The problem is that, much like proponents who believe that the earth is flat, there's simply no solid evidence that this is the case. For the audience, I've debated the evidence with Zenmode and others over the course of hundreds of posts over at Above Plain Politics here:
Scott

APP - Thread 'Do biological viruses actually exist?'

I made a thread that basically had the same premise as this one back in 2022. It had a good run, but then petered off for a long time. It's recently gotten a bit of a renewal, but I've come to believe that this is a subject that will get a lot of people to engage in personal attacks. I was hoping to avoid that this time around and this is the reason that I'm remaking this thread here. Note that I am not saying that the electron microscope photographs that virologists present aren't real microbes, just that they don't actually have the properties that would fit the definition of biological...

Before that, I debated the evidence for over a thousand posts over in General Politics here:
Scott

Thread 'Settling the Biological Virus Debate'

For a while, I've been debating with a certain someone in another thread regarding whether or not biological viruses are real. The thread has gotten rather large and we've been talking about several things in it. I think it makes more sense to separate the discussion on viruses into a thread of its own and will attempt to respond to posts on the subject in other thread here as well.

For those who are unfamiliar with the group of doctors and other professionals who have come to the conclusion that biological viruses aren't real, I invite you to take a look at the following 2 page statement...

For those who'd rather a short thread, I had a little one here:
Scott

Thread 'The "Virus" Concept | Viroliegy Newsletter'

I started a thread at the end of last year called "Settling the Virus Debate". Some reading this may be familiar with it. If not and you're interested, it's here:

https://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?197952-Settling-the-Biological-Virus-Debate

It petered out a few months ago. It may be that this subject is just one that no one else here wants to discuss anymore, but I thought that perhaps if I started a thread on the origins of the concept of a virus, which some may note rings eerily similar to the parable of the Emperor's New Clothes, this might get some...

Bottom line is that I'm a bit tired of the debate. If hundreds and even thousands of posts don't change a person's mind, I think that nothing will.
 
ZenMode said:
You've said previously that you don't believe there is a grand conspiracy, by "them" to trick the world regarding Covid. You've said that it's more or less laziness and as lack of doing the work today that has allowed the biological virus lie to continue for decades.
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That is closer to what I believe, although I think the word laziness isn't quite right. I think it's more akin to religious beliefs- people have become indoctrinated to believe certain things, it's just that many of those things simply aren't true. For most of my life, I myself was in this category when it came to biological viruses. This only changed after the alleged Covid pandemic started. It appears this was a turning point for a good part of the doctors and other researchers who no longer believe there's any solid evidence for biological viruses as well.

ZenMode said:
You've said previously that you don't believe there is a grand conspiracy, by "them" to trick the world regarding Covid. You've said that it's more or less laziness and as lack of doing the work today that has allowed the biological virus lie to continue for decades. That being the case, I'm curious how you explain this......

Over a weekend, multiple independent and competing companies, around the world, all did their own independent analysis of the Covid virus and developed a COVID vaccine. They all performed clinical trials involving tens of thousands of people to test the effectiveness of the vaccine and all had data on the results of those clinical trials. Multiple independent, and often competing, companies developed and tested products to test individuals for Covid. Case and mortality data was collected from hundreds of thousands of medical entities and reported around the world. Based on that reported data, goverments, businesses, school districts, etc around the world tracked that data and made decisions on restrictions/lockdowns.

So, explain how all of the independent medical and government entities made this happen just by chance, with no coordination.

For example, how did the people conducting the clinical trials and collecting data all just happen to get on the same page? They all had to fake data, but all did it on their own initiative ?
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I'm pretty sure I've already gotten into most if not all of this with you over at the Above Plain Politics thread. For the audience, that'd be here:
Scott

APP - Thread 'Do biological viruses actually exist?'

I made a thread that basically had the same premise as this one back in 2022. It had a good run, but then petered off for a long time. It's recently gotten a bit of a renewal, but I've come to believe that this is a subject that will get a lot of people to engage in personal attacks. I was hoping to avoid that this time around and this is the reason that I'm remaking this thread here. Note that I am not saying that the electron microscope photographs that virologists present aren't real microbes, just that they don't actually have the properties that would fit the definition of biological...

But honestly, I don't think I could have done a better job than Dr. Mark Bailey's 67 page article that heavily references the faulty logic of the "discovery" of the Cov 2 virus in its explanation of how there is no solid evidence that biological viruses exist. It can be seen here:
 
Scott said:
That is closer to what I believe, although I think the word laziness isn't quite right. I think it's more akin to religious beliefs- people have become indoctrinated to believe certain things, it's just that many of those things simply aren't true. For most of my life, I myself was in this category when it came to biological viruses. This only changed after the alleged Covid pandemic started. It appears this was a turning point for a good part of the doctors and other researchers who no longer believe there's any solid evidence for biological viruses as well.



I'm pretty sure I've already gotten into most if not all of this with you over at the Above Plain Politics thread. For the audience, that'd be here:
Scott

APP - Thread 'Do biological viruses actually exist?'

I made a thread that basically had the same premise as this one back in 2022. It had a good run, but then petered off for a long time. It's recently gotten a bit of a renewal, but I've come to believe that this is a subject that will get a lot of people to engage in personal attacks. I was hoping to avoid that this time around and this is the reason that I'm remaking this thread here. Note that I am not saying that the electron microscope photographs that virologists present aren't real microbes, just that they don't actually have the properties that would fit the definition of biological...

But honestly, I don't think I could have done a better job than Dr. Mark Bailey's 67 page article that heavily references the faulty logic of the "discovery" of the Cov 2 virus in its explanation of how there is no solid evidence that biological viruses exist. It can be seen here:
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"I'm pretty sure I've already gotten into most if not all of this with you over at the Above Plain Politics thread."

Right, but I'm asking YOU how, in your mind, this happened. "This" being the events surrounding all of the different entities, around the world, all developing vaccines for Sars Cov-2, doing the clinical trials, reporting the data, getting approval from all of the different country's approving bodies, etc if there is no grand conspiracy, as you claim.

I'm asking this question for probably the 4th time because you have yet to answer.
 
ZenMode said:
"I'm pretty sure I've already gotten into most if not all of this with you over at the Above Plain Politics thread."

Right, but I'm asking YOU how, in your mind, this happened. "This" being the events surrounding all of the different entities, around the world, all developing vaccines for Sars Cov-2, doing the clinical trials, reporting the data, getting approval from all of the different country's approving bodies, etc if there is no grand conspiracy, as you claim.

I'm asking this question for probably the 4th time because you have yet to answer.
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I'm just not interested in rehashing all of this again, particularly since I think Dr. Mark Bailey did such a good job of getting into this in his 67 page article. If you're not interested in reading it, I suspect the best option would be to just agree to disagree on this subject and call it a day. For the audience, the 67 page article can be found here:
 
Scott said:
I'm just not interested in rehashing all of this again,
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It hasn't been addressed once. I've asked the same question four times and each time you decline to actually answer it. You either ignore the question or defer to a generic article.
Scott said:
particularly since I think Dr. Mark Bailey did such a good job of getting into this in his 67 page article. If you're not interested in reading it, I suspect the best option would be to just agree to disagree on this subject and call it a day.
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On the question of the logistics of Covid, the development and testing of the vaccine and reporting of the data, there's nothing to disagree on, because you haven't answered the question.

Why do you think it is that you can't answer the question?
 
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