Iran's Right to Exist -- Missing from Obama's warmongering

Wow, imagine that... you ignored the questions presented to you. How shocking.

That said, did they or did they not sign the non-proliferation treaty?

The answer is... yes... they did

Did the leadership of Iran threaten to wipe another country off of the map?

The answer is... yes... they did

Yet you seem to believe such a country should be allowed to possess Nukes. You pretend that it is just the US that is worried/upset by this. You ignore everything relevant just so you can rant about Israel's grasp in DC. How typical of you.

How shocking that you couldn't interpret my answer.

How many times has the US violated international treaties? C'mon, take a guess.

Let me help you out.

Did Iran violate the non-proliferation treaty?

So what?

WE do it all the time when it suits us.

Did the leadership of Iran threaten to wipe Israel off the map?

Nope, one guy did, who is not the "leadership" of Iran, just part of the leadership .. and so what? That's bluster to his audience no differently than Israeli warmongering bluster to its audience .. in other words, MEANINGLESS.

Strange you somehow missed my questions. I am so shocked.

Has Isreal declared its nuclear capacity that the whole world knows that it has?

How many times has the US violated international treaties? C'mon, take a guess.

Don't strain yourself .. the answers are obvious .. didn't need you to actually answer them.
 
i had assumed that any president (no matter how good intentioned during candidacy) was gong to get on board the long term objectives after being sworn in and reading the secret files.

There is no single person in this country or the world that can reform this country at this point. So vote Republican or Democrat.. whatever you think is better but it doesn't matter. Would take a total revolution which id be afraid to even mention to reform.
 
How shocking that you couldn't interpret my answer.

How many times has the US violated international treaties? C'mon, take a guess.

Let me help you out.

Did Iran violate the non-proliferation treaty?

So what?

WE do it all the time when it suits us.

Did the leadership of Iran threaten to wipe Israel off the map?

Nope, one guy did, who is not the "leadership" of Iran, just part of the leadership .. and so what? That's bluster to his audience no differently than Israeli warmongering bluster to its audience .. in other words, MEANINGLESS.

Strange you somehow missed my questions. I am so shocked.

Has Isreal declared its nuclear capacity that the whole world knows that it has?

How many times has the US violated international treaties? C'mon, take a guess.

Don't strain yourself .. the answers are obvious .. didn't need you to actually answer them.

As usual, you try to deflect the discussion elsewhere when you have been found out to be a fool yet again.

Your hatred of Israel is duly noted.

As stated, it is not just the US that is concerned.

As stated, the US is not the harshest critic as you proclaim.

To add to this... NO ONE is stating that Iran doesn't have the right to exist. That is just an idiotic assertion on your part.

But please, continue to defend Iran. It is quite comical and shows your true nature. You hate Israel and wish that Iran had nukes to use on them.
 
As usual, you are sorely misinformed...

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/intern...n_for_new_nuke_plant_bbz7w09K6t5i9eydukqegO/1

During Medvedev's talks with Obama, he opened the door to backing potential new sanctions against Iran, speaking just days after Obama's decision to scale back a U.S. missile shield in Eastern Europe that Russia strongly opposed. He followed with stronger statements Thursday, saying Russia would support international sanctions if other efforts failed. He said the U.S. and Russia must push Iran to make its nuclear program open and transparent.

On Friday in Pittsburgh, the Russian leader said the facility is "a source of serious concerns." He called on Tehran to act quickly to win the trust of the international community and "demonstrate readiness for full-scale cooperation," according to a statement quoted by the Russian news agency ITAR-Tass.

Beijing urged Iran to cooperate, but a senior Chinese official batted down the idea of punishing Tehran. "I think that all the issues can only be solved through dialogue and negotiation," Vice Foreign Minister He Yafei said.

Said Obama: "Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow."

Sarkozy and Brown struck an even more aggressive tone. "The international community has no choice today but to draw a line in the sand," Brown said.

"However, Iran is under three sets of U.N. Security Council sanctions for refusing to freeze enrichment at what had been its single publicly known enrichment plant, which is being monitored by the IAEA."

The good news for me is that I'm not you brother.

It takes little to zero genius to read between the lines and recognize that neither Russia or China are going to agree to tough sanctions against Iran. Just like you were duped into believing "Mushroom clouds in 45 minutes" .. you've been duped again .. easily duped.

Can the US-Iran Talks Succeed?

... Robert Gates, the secretary of defense, did his part yesterday to lower the temperature of the rhetoric by stating explicitly that the US does not have a military option to deal with Iran's nuclear program. He didn't exactly take the military option "off the table," as the unfortunate phrase goes, but he did say:

"The reality is, there is no military option that does nothing more than buy time. The only way you end up not having a nuclear-capable Iran is for the Iranian government to decide that their security is diminished by having those weapons, as opposed to strengthened."

The reality is, of course, that it's highly unlikely that truly tough sanctions will get the support of the Russians and Chinese, and so the UN Security Council is likely to pass far more milder sanctions than the "crippling" ones, such as a cutoff of Iran's gasoline supply or a shutdown of Iran's access to international finance, that Hillary Clinton wants. The more likely result, if the talks don't go anywhere by the end of the year -- and it's almost impossible to imagine some breakthrough by then -- is that the UNSC might agree to far more mild, targeted sanctions that focus on Iran's nuclear program itself. But sanctions are the "sticks" in the US arsenal, and it's unclear what the "carrots" are -- or whether the US intends to offer the key "carrot," i.e., international acceptance of Iran's inherent right to enrich uranium.

Howard Berman, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and a close ally of AIPAC, has introduced legislation in support of Clinton's "crippling sanctions." Writing in the Washington Post, Berman warns that his bill targets both Iran's gasoline imports and its financial dealings

Tough, yes, but as Berman points out, the bill only provides Obama with a "mandate" to impose those draconian measures. It doesn't force him to do so. And so far, Berman, in spite of pressure from AIPAC, has refused to push his bill through Congress all year. And he isn't thrilled about the idea of doing anything that might disrupt the president's ongoing diplomatic effort. It's an enabling measure only, although its passage by Congress would hurt, not help, by inflaming passions on both sides and providing Iranian hawks with yet more leverage to sabotage the talks.

Speaking for the neoconservative alliance of hawks, Israeli hardliners, and outright kooks is Eliot Cohen, writing in the Wall Street Journal today. Cohen argues that neither diplomacy nor sanctions will dissuade Iran from pursuing the bomb:

"The U.S. government has hoped for a middle course of sanctions, negotiations and bargaining that would remove the problem without the ugly consequences. This is self-delusion."

And he adds:

"Pressure, be it gentle or severe, will not erase that nuclear program. The choices are now what they ever were: an American or an Israeli strike, which would probably cause a substantial war, or living in a world with Iranian nuclear weapons, which may also result in war, perhaps nuclear, over a longer period of time."

Like many neocons, Cohen seems to feel that the military option is unworkable. Israel, he says, isn't capable of dealing a knockout blow to the Iranian program, and an American strike would "probably lead to real warfare in the Persian Gulf, disrupting oil supplies and producing global responses." So Cohen falls back on the tired old regime-change strategy:

"It is, therefore, in the American interest to break with past policy and actively seek the overthrow of the Islamic Republic. Not by invasion, which this administration would not contemplate and could not execute, but through every instrument of U.S. power, soft more than hard."
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/478079/can_the_us_iran_talks_succeed

So lets send in the CIA .. AGAIN .. to overthrow their government .. since it worked so well last time we did it.

wow

If you believe that Russia will go along with tough sanctions on Iran .. good luck with that.

I'll just settle for the good news.
 
The good news for me is that I'm not you brother.

It takes little to zero genius to read between the lines and recognize that neither Russia or China are going to agree to tough sanctions against Iran. Just like you were duped into believing "Mushroom clouds in 45 minutes" .. you've been duped again .. easily duped.

Can the US-Iran Talks Succeed?

... Robert Gates, the secretary of defense, did his part yesterday to lower the temperature of the rhetoric by stating explicitly that the US does not have a military option to deal with Iran's nuclear program. He didn't exactly take the military option "off the table," as the unfortunate phrase goes, but he did say:

"The reality is, there is no military option that does nothing more than buy time. The only way you end up not having a nuclear-capable Iran is for the Iranian government to decide that their security is diminished by having those weapons, as opposed to strengthened."

The reality is, of course, that it's highly unlikely that truly tough sanctions will get the support of the Russians and Chinese, and so the UN Security Council is likely to pass far more milder sanctions than the "crippling" ones, such as a cutoff of Iran's gasoline supply or a shutdown of Iran's access to international finance, that Hillary Clinton wants. The more likely result, if the talks don't go anywhere by the end of the year -- and it's almost impossible to imagine some breakthrough by then -- is that the UNSC might agree to far more mild, targeted sanctions that focus on Iran's nuclear program itself. But sanctions are the "sticks" in the US arsenal, and it's unclear what the "carrots" are -- or whether the US intends to offer the key "carrot," i.e., international acceptance of Iran's inherent right to enrich uranium.

Howard Berman, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and a close ally of AIPAC, has introduced legislation in support of Clinton's "crippling sanctions." Writing in the Washington Post, Berman warns that his bill targets both Iran's gasoline imports and its financial dealings

Tough, yes, but as Berman points out, the bill only provides Obama with a "mandate" to impose those draconian measures. It doesn't force him to do so. And so far, Berman, in spite of pressure from AIPAC, has refused to push his bill through Congress all year. And he isn't thrilled about the idea of doing anything that might disrupt the president's ongoing diplomatic effort. It's an enabling measure only, although its passage by Congress would hurt, not help, by inflaming passions on both sides and providing Iranian hawks with yet more leverage to sabotage the talks.

Speaking for the neoconservative alliance of hawks, Israeli hardliners, and outright kooks is Eliot Cohen, writing in the Wall Street Journal today. Cohen argues that neither diplomacy nor sanctions will dissuade Iran from pursuing the bomb:

"The U.S. government has hoped for a middle course of sanctions, negotiations and bargaining that would remove the problem without the ugly consequences. This is self-delusion."

And he adds:

"Pressure, be it gentle or severe, will not erase that nuclear program. The choices are now what they ever were: an American or an Israeli strike, which would probably cause a substantial war, or living in a world with Iranian nuclear weapons, which may also result in war, perhaps nuclear, over a longer period of time."

Like many neocons, Cohen seems to feel that the military option is unworkable. Israel, he says, isn't capable of dealing a knockout blow to the Iranian program, and an American strike would "probably lead to real warfare in the Persian Gulf, disrupting oil supplies and producing global responses." So Cohen falls back on the tired old regime-change strategy:

"It is, therefore, in the American interest to break with past policy and actively seek the overthrow of the Islamic Republic. Not by invasion, which this administration would not contemplate and could not execute, but through every instrument of U.S. power, soft more than hard."
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/dreyfuss/478079/can_the_us_iran_talks_succeed

So lets send in the CIA .. AGAIN .. to overthrow their government .. since it worked so well last time we did it.

wow

If you believe that Russia will go along with tough sanctions on Iran .. good luck with that.

I'll just settle for the good news.

You truly are an idiot. I was not 'duped' by the 'mushroom cloud' comments. That is simply yet another strawman by you in an attempt to avoid the discussion

Yet again you rely on an article from the nation, rather than a direct quote from the Russian President who PUT sanctions on the table. Which kind of stands in the face of your 'never going to happen' line of bullshit.

Sorry, but I will look to what the world leaders ACTUALLY state, rather than some opinion of a writer from the Nation.

Obviously neither of us knows for sure what WILL happen, but the one thing we do know is that we have found yet another topic on which your ignorance shines brightly.

Just admit you hate the Jews and want Iran to blast them off the face of the earth, it will save us a lot of time dancing around your bigotry.
 
As usual, you try to deflect the discussion elsewhere when you have been found out to be a fool yet again.

Your hatred of Israel is duly noted.

As stated, it is not just the US that is concerned.

As stated, the US is not the harshest critic as you proclaim.

To add to this... NO ONE is stating that Iran doesn't have the right to exist. That is just an idiotic assertion on your part.

But please, continue to defend Iran. It is quite comical and shows your true nature. You hate Israel and wish that Iran had nukes to use on them.

:0)

So blessed not to be dumb .. not to be you.

“The Lord shall return their deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world. It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable.” -- Rabbi Ovadia Yosef

Shas leader and Interior Minister Eli Yesha reportedly defended Yosef’s remarks, saying “they reflected the overall state of thinking in the Israeli Jewish society.”

Although these incendiary comments have received widespread coverage in the European media, they have drawn scant attention in our mainstream U.S. press. In fact, a search of the Web sites of the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post and Chicago Tribune failed to reveal even a single reference to Yosef’s remarks. A justifiable chorus of condemnation from government, religious, and media spokespersons around the world would have promptly greeted these comments had they been directed against members of the Jewish faith by a prominent Christian or Muslim leader.
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/may-june01/0105018.html

Just one of hundreds of hate-filled comments from Jewish leaders that I can post .. that you say "NO ONE" says.

AND my comments reflect the thoughts of some of my JEWISH friends, like one of my business partners who also belongs to one of many JEWISH organizations who stand against the oppression of ZIONISTS.

Are you even fucking aware that many jews LIVE in Iran?

Are these jews also "anti-semitic?"

Is this one?
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1NLdRVkJiA&feature=related"]YouTube - Jewish Rabbi: Zionists are Godless Criminal Thugs[/ame]
 
You truly are an idiot. I was not 'duped' by the 'mushroom cloud' comments. That is simply yet another strawman by you in an attempt to avoid the discussion

Yet again you rely on an article from the nation, rather than a direct quote from the Russian President who PUT sanctions on the table. Which kind of stands in the face of your 'never going to happen' line of bullshit.

Sorry, but I will look to what the world leaders ACTUALLY state, rather than some opinion of a writer from the Nation.

Obviously neither of us knows for sure what WILL happen, but the one thing we do know is that we have found yet another topic on which your ignorance shines brightly.

Just admit you hate the Jews and want Iran to blast them off the face of the earth, it will save us a lot of time dancing around your bigotry.

No really dumb person.

Just admit that you're dumb.

Being able to read between the lines of what leaders "actually state" is not rocket science .. especially when one is intelligent enough to consider all the factors.

And yes, you were dumb enough to support the Iraq War and George Bush. Not a strawman .. just a benchmark of how much of your thought should be valued.
 
I'm glad you guys have had time to write this morning....it's been interesting. Predictable but interesting.
 
:0)

So blessed not to be dumb .. not to be you.

“The Lord shall return their deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world. It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and damnable.” -- Rabbi Ovadia Yosef

Shas leader and Interior Minister Eli Yesha reportedly defended Yosef’s remarks, saying “they reflected the overall state of thinking in the Israeli Jewish society.”

Although these incendiary comments have received widespread coverage in the European media, they have drawn scant attention in our mainstream U.S. press. In fact, a search of the Web sites of the New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post and Chicago Tribune failed to reveal even a single reference to Yosef’s remarks. A justifiable chorus of condemnation from government, religious, and media spokespersons around the world would have promptly greeted these comments had they been directed against members of the Jewish faith by a prominent Christian or Muslim leader.
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/may-june01/0105018.html

Just one of hundreds of hate-filled comments from Jewish leaders that I can post .. that you say "NO ONE" says.

AND my comments reflect the thoughts of some of my JEWISH friends, like one of my business partners who also belongs to one of many JEWISH organizations who stand against the oppression of ZIONISTS.

Are you even fucking aware that many jews LIVE in Iran?

Are these jews also "anti-semitic?"

Is this one?
YouTube - Jewish Rabbi: Zionists are Godless Criminal Thugs

Oh, so you don't like being called a bigot when it doesn't apply? Ironic given your desire to label those opposed to Obama as racists. That was the point of calling you a bigot.

Once again your ignorance knows no bounds does it?

You equate the quote from a Rabbi in Israel with that of the PRESIDENT of Iran?

We all understand that there are extremists on both sides of the Muslim/Israeli conflict. But when the PRESIDENT of a country is ONE of the extremists... THAT is a cause for concern.

The nonsense that this rabbis thoughts are the same as the majority of Israelis is laughable. They have had nukes for decades and have not used them, yet the 'overall state of thinking' in Israel is that they should 'annihilate' the Arabs????

Seriously? Are you really that fucking ignorant?
 
No really dumb person.

Just admit that you're dumb.

Being able to read between the lines of what leaders "actually state" is not rocket science .. especially when one is intelligent enough to consider all the factors.

And yes, you were dumb enough to support the Iraq War and George Bush. Not a strawman .. just a benchmark of how much of your thought should be valued.

Right... because we should all 'read between the lines' (aka... make up shit and pretend that is what is happening)

Again, like in most arguments, when it has been shown that you are an idiot, you resort to 'u like Bush' ... which shows just how moronic you really are.
 
Right... because we should all 'read between the lines' (aka... make up shit and pretend that is what is happening)

Again, like in most arguments, when it has been shown that you are an idiot, you resort to 'u like Bush' ... which shows just how moronic you really are.

:0)

Laughable

I have no concern that my arguments demonstrate me to be an "idiot" .. no concern whatsoever.

.. and coming from you .. who didn't even have moron intelligence on Bush and Iraq .. pure comedy.

Small wonder why reading between the lines is over your head.

Did you listen to the actual words coming out of Bush's mouth too?

:0)
 
:0)

Laughable

I have no concern that my arguments demonstrate me to be an "idiot" .. no concern whatsoever.

.. and coming from you .. who didn't even have moron intelligence on Bush and Iraq .. pure comedy.

Small wonder why reading between the lines is over your head.

Did you listen to the actual words coming out of Bush's mouth too?

:0)

Like I stated, you fall back to idiocy like the above every time you have been show for the fool that you are.

You originally stated that Iran has a right to exist, which no leader of any country has stated anything to the contrary.... yes you did find an extremist who has NO power to act that made a comment against Arabs back in 2001. Here is a hint for you... Iran is not made up of Arabs. They are predominatly Aryan.

You originally stated that Russia and China would never condone sanctions against Iran. I then quoted the President of Russia stating that sanctions may be necessary and you ran away and pretended to 'read between the lines'.

You originally pretended that it was the US that was once again 'trying to dictate to the world'... yet it is the WORLD that is against the actions taken by Iran. Yet you again run away from this simple fact.

You pretend that it is the US taking the hard stance against Iran due to Israeli influence. While Israel certainly has a lot of influence in DC, it was shown to you that other countries have taken a harsher stance than the US. Yet again you run away and pretend this is not the case, because you are 'reading between the lines'.

You ignore the fact that Iran signed the non-proliferation treaty so that you can pretend that everyone is entitled to develop nukes if they so choose and tough shit for anyone who might be concerned by that.
 
Like I stated, you fall back to idiocy like the above every time you have been show for the fool that you are.

You originally stated that Iran has a right to exist, which no leader of any country has stated anything to the contrary.... yes you did find an extremist who has NO power to act that made a comment against Arabs back in 2001. Here is a hint for you... Iran is not made up of Arabs. They are predominatly Aryan.

You originally stated that Russia and China would never condone sanctions against Iran. I then quoted the President of Russia stating that sanctions may be necessary and you ran away and pretended to 'read between the lines'.

You originally pretended that it was the US that was once again 'trying to dictate to the world'... yet it is the WORLD that is against the actions taken by Iran. Yet you again run away from this simple fact.

You pretend that it is the US taking the hard stance against Iran due to Israeli influence. While Israel certainly has a lot of influence in DC, it was shown to you that other countries have taken a harsher stance than the US. Yet again you run away and pretend this is not the case, because you are 'reading between the lines'.

You ignore the fact that Iran signed the non-proliferation treaty so that you can pretend that everyone is entitled to develop nukes if they so choose and tough shit for anyone who might be concerned by that.

So blessed ...

You're depending on the Russians? Here's what Russia said just 9 days ago.

Russia Says No to Iran Nuclear Sanctions

MOSCOW — Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov made it clear Thursday that Moscow wouldn't back any new rounds of tough sanctions against Iran in the United Nations Security Council, and he dismissed a U.S. timetable for securing progress from Iran on ending its nuclear-fuel program.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549141,00.html

Dude, you're just plain dumb. You can't figure out things like this .. proven by your record.

You don't even have the intelligence to know that it is the US and Israel pushing for tough sanctions.

Too fucking dumb to know that sanctions will only stregthen the hard-liners in Iran. Sanctions won't work anymore than they did with North Korea.

Too fucking dumb to know that RUSSIA, China, and Venezuela .. along with many europeans .. will ignore any sanctions.

Too dumb to recognize that there is NOTHING the US or Israel can do to prevent Iran from it's own nuclear aims, no matter what they may be.

You can wax on ad infinitum about illusionary US power or how we get to dictate who gets to have nukes .. but the world does not operate by your illusions.

Noticed you never got around to addressing if Israel has declared it's nuclear capability .. no problem :0)
 
Russia Urges Restraint Over Iran Nuclear News
September 28, 2009


in other words .. TODAY

UNITED NATIONS -- Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has responded to revelations about a previously undisclosed Iranian nuclear facility by urging all sides to exercise restraint until the details have been fully analyzed.

Speaking to RFE/RL in New York, Lavrov also questioned assumptions that Tehran was hiding anything and accused Western governments of withholding knowledge of a second Iranian uranium-enrichment plant.

"As far as I understand there's no clarity regarding the legal aspects of this situation," Lavrov said. "I don't want to go into legalistic analysis -- it has to be provided by IAEA -- but don't forget that Iran did notify the agency about its intentions, about its plans to construct a new facility, and we are convinced that whatever is being constructed under the Iranian nuclear program must be brought under the monitoring of IAEA."

Lavrov's statements appeared aimed at easing pressure on Moscow to take a tougher line against Iran when the UN Security Council's veto-wielding members meet next week to discuss steps to persuade Iran to comply with UN resolutions on its nuclear activities.
http://www.rferl.org/content/Russia_Urges_Restraint_Over_Iran_Nuclear_News/1836982.html

Ahh .. really dumb person .. this is the point in the conversation where I expect you to disappear.

Thanks for playing.
 
Oh Lawd .. please send me a right-winger with at least half a brain so there can be actual debate on this issue.

You do make right-wingers with at least half a brain, don't you?

Iran tests most advanced missiles

TEHRAN, Iran — Iran tested its most advanced missiles Monday to cap two days of war games, raising more international concern and stronger pressure to quickly come clean on the newly revealed nuclear site Tehran was secretly constructing.

State television said the powerful Revolutionary Guard, which controls Iran's missile program, successfully tested upgraded versions of the medium-range Shahab-3 and Sajjil missiles. Both can carry warheads and reach up to 1,200 miles (2,000 kilometers), putting Israel, U.S. military bases in the Middle East, and parts of Europe within striking distance.

The missile tests were meant to flex Iran's military might and show readiness for any military threat.

"Iranian missiles are able to target any place that threatens Iran," said Abdollah Araqi, a top Revolutionary Guard commander, according to the semi-official Fars news agency.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090927/ML.Iran/

Quick .. who is selling advanced weapons to Iran?
 
So blessed ...

You're depending on the Russians? Here's what Russia said just 9 days ago.

Russia Says No to Iran Nuclear Sanctions

MOSCOW — Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov made it clear Thursday that Moscow wouldn't back any new rounds of tough sanctions against Iran in the United Nations Security Council, and he dismissed a U.S. timetable for securing progress from Iran on ending its nuclear-fuel program.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549141,00.html

Dude, you're just plain dumb. You can't figure out things like this .. proven by your record.

You don't even have the intelligence to know that it is the US and Israel pushing for tough sanctions.

Too fucking dumb to know that sanctions will only stregthen the hard-liners in Iran. Sanctions won't work anymore than they did with North Korea.

Too fucking dumb to know that RUSSIA, China, and Venezuela .. along with many europeans .. will ignore any sanctions.

Too dumb to recognize that there is NOTHING the US or Israel can do to prevent Iran from it's own nuclear aims, no matter what they may be.

You can wax on ad infinitum about illusionary US power or how we get to dictate who gets to have nukes .. but the world does not operate by your illusions.

Noticed you never got around to addressing if Israel has declared it's nuclear capability .. no problem :0)

again... your stupidity is plain to see... an article from PRIOR to Irans announcement... vs my article where sanctions are put on the table by the Russian President AFTER the news came out. Amazing how they changed their stance. Again, this is not to say sanctions will definitely be put in place. But it does show the ignorance in your 'dey will never do it' bullshit.
 
Russia Urges Restraint Over Iran Nuclear News
September 28, 2009


in other words .. TODAY

UNITED NATIONS -- Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has responded to revelations about a previously undisclosed Iranian nuclear facility by urging all sides to exercise restraint until the details have been fully analyzed.

Speaking to RFE/RL in New York, Lavrov also questioned assumptions that Tehran was hiding anything and accused Western governments of withholding knowledge of a second Iranian uranium-enrichment plant.

"As far as I understand there's no clarity regarding the legal aspects of this situation," Lavrov said. "I don't want to go into legalistic analysis -- it has to be provided by IAEA -- but don't forget that Iran did notify the agency about its intentions, about its plans to construct a new facility, and we are convinced that whatever is being constructed under the Iranian nuclear program must be brought under the monitoring of IAEA."

Lavrov's statements appeared aimed at easing pressure on Moscow to take a tougher line against Iran when the UN Security Council's veto-wielding members meet next week to discuss steps to persuade Iran to comply with UN resolutions on its nuclear activities.
http://www.rferl.org/content/Russia_Urges_Restraint_Over_Iran_Nuclear_News/1836982.html

Ahh .. really dumb person .. this is the point in the conversation where I expect you to disappear.

Thanks for playing.

So urging restraint = we will never think about sanctions ???

Again, please continue displaying such ignorance. It is quite amusing.
 
They have a right to defend themselves against any weapons their adversaries have .. period, point blank. That's how the world works whether you like it or not.

How many times has the US violated international treaties? C'mon, take a guess.

Has Isreal declared its nuclear capacity that the whole world knows that it has?

This has ZERO to do with the protection of the US and everything to do with Washington, DC being Israeli-occupied territory .. and the world knows that as well.
Absolutely, why does Iran have to comply when Israel doesn't and if you think Israel has made threats, you need to look again!
 
Back
Top