Is an egg a chicken?

PoliTalker said:
"Is an egg a chicken?"

"Definition of egg-

1a : the hard-shelled reproductive body produced by a bird and especially by the common domestic chicken also : its contents used as food
b : an animal reproductive body consisting of an ovum together with its nutritive and protective envelopes and having the capacity to develop into a new individual capable of independent existence
c : ovum"

"Definition of chicken-

(Entry 1 of 3)
1a : the common domestic fowl (Gallus gallus) especially when young also : its flesh used as food — compare jungle fowl
b : any of various birds or their young
2 : a young woman
3a : coward
b : any of various contests in which the participants risk personal safety in order to see which one will give up first"

These definitions are different. Therefore:

It is concluded that an egg is not a chicken.
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Wrong answer, according to science.

A fertilized chicken egg is *a chicken* in the embryonic stage of development. There’s no other scientific conclusion.

What’s instructional about these debates is how quickly pro abortion advocates will try and leave science behind and turn the debate into a philosophical discussion in order to avoid ‘certain moral and ethical implications’ with abortion.

The science says all living organisms begin to exist at the moment of fertilization/conception. Including, organisms categorized by science as Homo sapiens.

Science. The science says.
 
The baby expected this weekend, next month...or 4 months from now, is an unborn child....a developing baby...
I took a gift to a neighbor yesterday...Their little boy, due in a week, has a name, a very excited big sister, a gorgeous room, and is already a Buckeye fan....
 
Damocles said:
Inside the egg is an embryonic chicken if it is fertilized, that's simple science. You learned this in 5th grade. Shoot, we learned it in Kindergarten when we hatched about 2 dozen chickens in the classroom using an incubator and learned how the chicken was growing inside the egg.
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I wonder if they still do that.......I remember that experience as well......
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



We have words.

Words have meanings.

Some people assign alternate meanings to existing words.

That makes a language less effective, because it becomes about context and inflection.

Sort of like Chinese.

Now here are some words, using the intended meanings:

'A baby' has been born.

Eggs cannot fly on their own wings.

A fetus has not been born.

Chickens can fly and they can lay eggs.

If we allow all words to mean all things then our language becomes useless.

If you wish to say 'a chicken in a very early stage of development' that's fine. But that's not the same as saying 'a chicken.'

The two terms are describing different things. They are not interchangeable.
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you ignore the fact that in English almost everything has more than one word that can describe them........"baby" is not a scientific term.........blastocyst, embryo, and fetus are.......your argument is akin to saying "that isn't a cloud, it's a potential rain storm"......and everyone else knows it is actually a cumulus phenomena........
 
Taft2016 said:
Jarod always makes the dumbest points.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balut_(food)
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Balut is most delicious! you just have to get over the visual and the texture!


While not an egg, there is the Orolan bunting, that in france they capture and fatten up before eaten whole. the traditional way to eat it is with a towl over your head to hide your shame from god it's so good.


Wild ortolan buntings are hunted in southwest France in a cultural gastronomic tradition dating back to Roman times. After capture, the birds are fattened up in a cage before being drowned in Armagnac. Then they are plucked, cooked, and eaten whole, bones and all – everything but the beak
 
Turgid Member said:
Chickens sorta free range around here. it's the rooster I want to strangle.
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Roosters prohibited here....;) The neighborhood chickens try to "free range" occasionally....but our local FB page keeps pretty close tabs on all the escapees (dogs/cats/turtles, etc. too)....so they're not free for long....lol
 
Damocles said:
Inside the egg is an embryonic chicken if it is fertilized, that's simple science. You learned this in 5th grade. Shoot, we learned it in Kindergarten when we hatched about 2 dozen chickens in the classroom using an incubator and learned how the chicken was growing inside the egg.
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Right, an embryonic a chicken, not a baby chicken. Thank you!

If it’s not fertilized, it’s a chicken egg. Even if it’s not fertilized it’s a chicken egg. Your hand is a human hand, your hand is not a human being.
 
Unborn/hatched baby chicken, until hatched....
Unborn babies have hands....human hands....;)
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
Wrong answer, according to science.

A fertilized chicken egg is *a chicken* in the embryonic stage of development. There’s no other scientific conclusion. ...
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Wrong.

The thread does not specify the egg is fertilized.

You imposed that extraneous condition.

Any human can observe a sample egg placed next to a sample chicken and clearly see that the two are different.

Obviously, an egg and a chicken are different things.

That is why we have different words for them.

Darth Omar said:
What’s instructional about these debates is how quickly pro abortion advocates will try and leave science behind and turn the debate into a philosophical discussion in order to avoid ‘certain moral and ethical implications’ with abortion.

The science says all living organisms begin to exist at the moment of fertilization/conception. Including, organisms categorized by science as Homo sapiens.

Science. The science says.
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Wanna talk science? No problem. Science also has different terms for an egg and a chicken, because Science recognizes they are not the same thing:

"Egg, in biology, the female sex cell, or gamete. In botany, the egg is sometimes called a macrogamete. In zoology, the Latin term for egg, ovum, is frequently used to refer to the single cell, while the word egg may be applied to the entire specialized structure or capsule that consists of the ovum, its various protective membranes, and any accompanying nutritive materials. The human female reproductive cell is also usually called an ovum."

Egg - Britannica

"Chicken, (Gallus gallus), any of more than 60 breeds of medium-sized poultry that are primarily descended from the wild red jungle fowl (Gallus gallus, family Phasianidae, order Galliformes) of India. The chicken is perhaps the most widely domesticated fowl, raised worldwide for its meat and eggs."

Chicken - Britannica
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



Wrong.

The thread does not specify the egg is fertilized.

You imposed that extraneous condition.

Any human can observe a sample egg placed next to a sample chicken and clearly see that the two are different.

Obviously, an egg and a chicken are different things.

That is why we have different words for them.



Wanna talk science? No problem. Science also has different terms for an egg and a chicken, because Science recognizes they are not the same thing:

"Egg, in biology, the female sex cell, or gamete. In botany, the egg is sometimes called a macrogamete. In zoology, the Latin term for egg, ovum, is frequently used to refer to the single cell, while the word egg may be applied to the entire specialized structure or capsule that consists of the ovum, its various protective membranes, and any accompanying nutritive materials. The human female reproductive cell is also usually called an ovum."

Egg - Britannica

"Chicken, (Gallus gallus), any of more than 60 breeds of medium-sized poultry that are primarily descended from the wild red jungle fowl (Gallus gallus, family Phasianidae, order Galliformes) of India. The chicken is perhaps the most widely domesticated fowl, raised worldwide for its meat and eggs."

Chicken - Britannica
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You just proved my point lol.

A fertilized chicken egg is *a chicken* in the embryonic stage of development.

True or false?
 
Damocles said:
Inside the egg is an embryonic chicken if it is fertilized, that's simple science. You learned this in 5th grade. Shoot, we learned it in Kindergarten when we hatched about 2 dozen chickens in the classroom using an incubator and learned how the chicken was growing inside the egg.
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One, I was raised in the city, not in fucking Bald Knob.
Two, what the fuck difference does it make what it is if you don't want it.?
 
NiftyNiblick said:
One, I was raised in the city, not in fucking Bald Knob.
Two, what the fuck difference does it make what it is if you don't want it.?
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You didn't raise chicks in science class? We did and I grew up in "the city"....
If you don't "want it", you should have made a better effort not to "get it".....Whether you want it or not...it is what it is....
And if you understand that...and you (and others "involved") are ok with that, I guess you do what you're comfortable doing....
 
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