Is Atheism a religion?

[BRUTALITOPS]

sorry, poster formerly known as a poster formerly known....

despite what you probably posted to wiki this afternoon, there is no such fucking thing as an agnostic atheist.....anymore than there is such a thing as an Islamic Christian.....or a Communist socialist.......or a Scientologist Freemason......

it's simply an argument from ignorance.....

cover your eyes and close your ears then. yes, i wrote the entire wiki article. You can google more if you like.

Another example of how an irrational theist (you) acts in the face of evidence

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

100% incorrect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic_atheist

Agnostic atheism, also called atheistic agnosticism, encompasses atheism and agnosticism. Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not have belief in the existence of any deity, and agnostic because they do not claim to know that a deity does not exist. The agnostic atheist may be contrasted with the agnostic theist, who does believe that one or more deities exist but does not claim to have knowledge of such.

yes.....because wiki said so....you base your faith on simple things, like wiki, yet mock those who have written testimonial evidence....

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

this has been explained about 10 times in this thread already, it's not our fault you have a tiny brain.

Almost all atheists, if you backed them into a corner, would obviously admit they can't disprove of a non-falsifiable claim. However the probability is so insignificantly small it's just easier to call ourselves atheists. The factor of god just isn't statistically significant.

You don't go around calling yourself a giant unicorn agnostic. It's stupid and redundant, even though you can't disprove of a galactic unicorn.

here we go with the fiction stories vs the non fiction stories.....

as has been explained to you about 10 times, the comparison is flawed to the point of stupidity

you believe it, because your faith is atheism

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Main Entry: 1ag·nos·tic
Pronunciation: \ag-ˈnäs-tik, əg-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek agnōstos unknown, unknowable, from a- + gnōstos known, from gignōskein to know — more at know
Date: 1869
1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2 : a person unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics>

This is NOT contradictory to the tenants of atheism. Atheism and agnosticism are NOT mutually exclusive.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

grind

if you're going to continue using definitions, then why haven't you owned up to the fact that by your earlier definition of faith, that you actually have faith in atheism?

either own up to your definitions or stop using them

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

this is of course, using a broad defination of "knowable"

I am not 100% god does not exist, only 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sure

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

here we go with the fiction stories vs the non fiction stories.....

LOL??

fiction vs. non fiction?

YOU CAN'T DISPROVE OF GIANT GALATIC UNICORNS.

You are a giant galatic unicorn agnostic.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

grind

if you're going to continue using definitions, then why haven't you owned up to the fact that by your earlier definition of faith, that you actually have faith in atheism?

either own up to your definitions or stop using them

my leap of faith is the equivalent of nanometers to the extent that it is statistically insignificant. Nevertheless, this is why I am an agnostic atheist, but for all practical meanings of the word, I am a de facto atheist.

It would be ridiculous to call myself an agnostic for every INFINITE non-falsifiable claim in the universe. No one operates that way.

I refer you to my signature quote:

I am an agnostic only to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at the bottom of the garden.
—Richard Dawkins
​

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

" Agnosticism is not about belief in god but about knowledge — it was coined originally to describe the position of a person who could not claim to know for sure if any gods exist or not.

Thus, it is clear that agnosticism is compatible with both theism and atheism. A person can believe in a god (theism) without claiming to know for sure if that god exists; the result is agnostic theism. On the other hand, a person can disbelieve in gods (atheism) without claiming to know for sure that no gods can or do exist; the result is agnostic atheism."

http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm

 

[Damocles]

What if you don't believe or disbeleive? What if your just skeptical? Would that be faith?

Not particularly. That was my point. Did you read no other post from me? I mean really...

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

my leap of faith is the equivalent of nanometers to the extent that it is statistically insignificant. Nevertheless, this is why I am an agnostic atheist, but for all practical meanings of the word, I am a de facto atheist.

It would be ridiculous to call myself an agnostic for every INFINITE non-falsifiable claim in the universe. No one operates that way.

I refer you to my signature quote:

I am an agnostic only to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at the bottom of the garden.
—Richard Dawkins
​

oh yes....dawkins is the end all be all........and yet you ignore feynman for his words....

your alleged leap of faith is nothing but a subjective POV as you are already equating it....thus, your point is nothing....nada

yes....you are de facto atheist....i already told watermark he is but he keeps fighting....why did you now change? do you even understand what a non-falsifiable claim is? because atheism is a non falsifiable claim......

 

[Damocles]

" Agnosticism is not about belief in god but about knowledge — it was coined originally to describe the position of a person who could not claim to know for sure if any gods exist or not.

Thus, it is clear that agnosticism is compatible with both theism and atheism. A person can believe in a god (theism) without claiming to know for sure if that god exists; the result is agnostic theism. On the other hand, a person can disbelieve in gods (atheism) without claiming to know for sure that no gods can or do exist; the result is agnostic atheism."

http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutagnosticism/a/atheism.htm

It's simpler and more accurate to call it what it is, agnosticism.

However this is much more precise than insisting you are "an Atheist" when you really are simply a skeptic. So long as you fully comprehend you could be wrong. Extreme skepticism isn't the same thing as atheism, hence a new phrase was created so that people could feel better about what they call themselves.

However the extreme vehemence that you portray when you believe that everybody must believe as you do or be found to be "unworthy" of office testifies to a deeper belief, one that you feel must be evangelized. Being the Southern Man of Atheism who thinks that no man should hold office or be hired for any job, as portrayed previously in this and other threads by the companion you chose to merge opinion with, tends to lead anybody with a brain to the conclusion of your Faith and religious fervor.

Shoot, Watermark even goes so far as adding tracts for his Faith, hoping to convince more people to believe as he does. The relative difference between his activity and that of any other religious person becomes non-existent. Especially when demanding that only his belief be represented and given power over all others.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

the "fail" is obvious.....there IS no requirement that the designer have a designer if the designer is not a "thing".....

Hello, special pleading!

there is no more improbable explanation than "shit just happens".....

There is no other explanation than shit just happens. One day, we will find out exactly how the shit happened.

A creator is just a needless complication that adds nothing to the equation.

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

Everything meaningful to say has been said. Yurt and Damo are just going to spout the same arguments and pretend they hadn't been debunked 100 posts ago. It's time to wrap this up.

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

It's simpler and more accurate to call it what it is, agnosticism.

However this is much more precise than insisting you are "an Atheist" when you really are simply a skeptic. So long as you fully comprehend you could be wrong. Extreme skepticism isn't the same thing as atheism, hence a new phrase was created so that people could feel better about what they call themselves.

However the extreme vehemence that you portray when you believe that everybody must believe as you do or be found to be "unworthy" of office testifies to a deeper belief, one that you feel must be evangelized. Being the Southern Man of Atheism who thinks that no man should hold office or be hired for any job, as portrayed previously in this and other threads by the companion you chose to merge opinion with, tends to lead anybody with a brain to the conclusion of your Faith and religious fervor.

Shoot, Watermark even goes so far as adding tracts for his Faith, hoping to convince more people to believe as he does. The relative difference between his activity and that of any other religious person becomes non-existent. Especially when demanding that only his belief be represented and given power over all others.

yes

 

[Cancel 2018. 3]

Everything meaningful to say has been said. Yurt and Damo are just going to spout the same arguments and pretend they hadn't been debunked 100 posts ago. It's time to wrap this up.

translation:

i can't debate

i have nothing to say

i am worthless

 

[PostmodernProphet]

this has been explained about 10 times in this thread already, it's not our fault you have a tiny brain.

Almost all atheists, if you backed them into a corner, would obviously admit they can't disprove of a non-falsifiable claim. However the probability is so insignificantly small it's just easier to call ourselves atheists. The factor of god just isn't statistically significant.

You don't go around calling yourself a giant unicorn agnostic. It's stupid and redundant, even though you can't disprove of a galactic unicorn.

no, it hasn't been "explained"...you've made your stupid argument over and over, but it remains a stupid argument....of course atheists when backed in a corner have to admit their claims are idiotic....that's because their claims are idiotic......and in doing so they say, "well, I'm not really an atheist, I'm something else".....then, when you let them out of the corner they go back to pretending they are atheists.....the question isn't why I'm not calling myself a unicorn agnostic...the question is, why are you calling yourself an atheist?......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Main Entry: 1ag·nos·tic
Pronunciation: \ag-ˈnäs-tik, əg-\
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek agnōstos unknown, unknowable, from a- + gnōstos known, from gignōskein to know — more at know
Date: 1869
1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
2 : a person unwilling to commit to an opinion about something <political agnostics>

This is NOT contradictory to the tenants of atheism. Atheism and agnosticism are NOT mutually exclusive.

dude....how can this NOT be mutually exclusive?....

1 : a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God) is unknown and probably unknowable; broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

and

1 archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity

one is uncommitted the other is committed.....how can that not be contradictory?.......

[both definitions from Merriam Webster]

 

[PostmodernProphet]

" Agnosticism is not about belief in god but about knowledge —

that directly contradicts the definition YOU gave for agnostic....

one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god

you aren't doing very well in this debate....

 

[FUCK THE POLICE]

The religious side of this debate has been slaughtered. I'm almost embarrassed for them. Good day.