Into the Night
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You simply appeal to ignorance as is the wont of the right-wing. Fantasy is better than the truth for them.
Fallacy fallacy. Inversion fallacy. You are describing Democrats again.
You simply appeal to ignorance as is the wont of the right-wing. Fantasy is better than the truth for them.
I agree to disagree. Our Second Amendment is clear as to what is necessary to the security of our free States.
And, this is a sovereign right of any State of our federal Union:
how is that possible when the Constitution specifically forbids the states from maintaining their own troops without the consent of congress??????
Yes, it is. So says SCOTUS in the Heller decision. Why is this even a topic? There is only one correct answer.
You ignore the law. Well regulated militia of the United States have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bear Arms for the security needs of our States or the Union.
It doesn't. Go read Article I, $8, Article I, $10, the 2nd Amendment, and the 10th Amendment again. States have the inherent right to organize a militia. Those troops must remain in the State. They are there to defend that State.
that's not what it says.
" the freedom of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed."
2nd amendment said:A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
yes. it is.
Our Second Amendment is clear as to what is Necessary.
Our Second Amendment is clear; the End justifies the Means.
the ends justify the means is something psychotic totalitarians believe in.
the Illinois right to bear arms is not relevant to the 2nd Amendment. Can you explain how the Bill of Rights has 9 Amendments that specifically refers to the rights of the people, yet somehow the 2nd applies to ONLY your 'well regulated' or government controlled militia????? Because I can cite numerous ratification era comments/quotes that we the people clearly understood that the right to bear arms belongs to all individuals
Are you actually trying to argue that the people of a State are worthless to the security of that State???Ok. I agree to disagree. The unorganized militia has already proven itself worthless to the security of any of our free States.
You cannot use one portion of a constitution to cancel another.That is why This matters: The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.
yes, it is clear. YOU, however, are misinterpreting it.
Isn't right-wing fantasy wonderful. There is no appeal to ignorance of the law.Are you actually trying to argue that the people of a State are worthless to the security of that State???
The 2nd amendment does not discuss the 'unorganized militia'. There is no such phrase in the 2nd amendment.
You cannot use one portion of a constitution to cancel another.
Isn't right-wing fantasy wonderful.
Yes it is, because our Second Amendment clearly secures that State's sovereign right.
US Constitution, Article 1, Section 10, clause 3
"No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay."
sorry, but NO!. As a former resident of Illinois myself, your viewpoint and understanding of the Illinois Constitution is either misguided or purposefully misinterpreted.
Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)
The End justifies the Means not the reverse.You cannot discard half of the 2nd amendment.