Is Marxism atheistic?

[Truck Fump / h1b]

we get it biden, marx is the real jesus. wonderful. you're an idiot.

next.

 

[BidenPresident]

Marx considered himself a social scientist first and foremost, but he undoubtedly had a deep sense of justice and moral outrage about the enslavement of human sovereignty and creativity to the wage labour capitalist construct.

It is unfortunate the Bolsheviks coopted his name without his permission, because it does not seem plausible in the least he would condone a system which ruled through terror and oppression.

Marx wrote a dissertation in philosophy, not social science.

 

[Truck Fump / h1b]

Marx wrote a dissertation in philosophy, not social science.

he was an all around dipstick jockey

 

[Into the Night]

In 1843 the young Karl Marx wrote in a critical essay on German philosophy that religion is “the opium of the people”, a phrase that would eventually harden into official atheism for the communist movement, though it poorly represented the true opinions of its founding theorist.

Marx also wrote that religion is “the sentiment of a heartless world” and “the soul of soul-less conditions”, as if to suggest that even the most fantastical beliefs bear within themselves a protest against worldly suffering and a promise to redeem us from conditions that might otherwise appear beyond all possible change.

https://www.newstatesman.com/internatio ... nd-secular

The Church of No God is a religion, like any other, except that most of its members are fundamentalists. They are NOT atheists.

 

[Into the Night]

Marxism that is what blm is based on and those who started it were Marxist , your fellow democrats dumb ass

In the Church of Karl Marx, government is a thing to be worshiped.

 

[Into the Night]

However, it remains an eternal question which is still with us today.

The Marxian thesis of human alienation in which human dignity is enslaved to the market forces, and that human qualities like justice and ethics are enslaved to an imaginary metaphysical God, are questions that remain with us today. I am sure there are about ten thousand posts on this board alone, where some poster contends that deferring our human qualities of virtue and morality to an omniscient metaphysical power is robbing ourselves of human sovereignty.

My two cents: Marx's theory of historical determinism has been discredited, but as a political philosopher and social scientist he was still asking the right questions.

Does religion make a difference??? It already has!

Everything from architecture and great pieces of art have been affected by it.
Wars have been fought over it.
Charity has come because of it.
Whole societies have been shaped by it.

The Freemasons and their lodges, the Buddhist temples, the Christian churches and temples, the synagogues, the mosques, ALL of them exist because of religion.

 

[Into the Night]

Indeed.

While Marx was clearly an atheist, I keep in mind that there are different kinds of atheists, just like there are different kinds of Christians.

Nope. Atheism has one and only one meaning: No theism. That means a state where no religion or circular argument is used. The Church of No God is a religion. It is not atheism.

I seriously doubt Marx would have condoned the militant state atheism of the Soviet regime; nor their state policy of murder and oppression of Christians and Muslims. There is no evidence Marx ever supported political terrorism or totalitarianism.

You need to read Marx some more.

The Church of Karl Marx condones worship of the government. Any other religion is to be quashed. Marx often used the term 'the struggle'. He specifically spoke out against Christians and Islam, as well as Judaism. They interfered with the all powerful State.

 

[Into the Night]

Marx wrote a dissertation in philosophy, not social science.

Cypress is correct here. Marx considered himself a 'social scientist'. But it was philosophy, not science, so you have a valid point here as well. There is no such thing as 'social science'. Science is a set of falsifiable theories, not any religion or description of social norms.

 

[Cypress]

Marx wrote a dissertation in philosophy, not social science.

Oh right, I forget he got a philosophy PhD in school.

His primary life's work in England though was focused on economics, history, political theory - aka, the social sciences.

Ultimately, I do not think Marx was that interested in metaphysics. He certainly considered his approach to historical determinism and economics to be scientific.

It is perfectly fair though, to say that Marx influenced generations of philosophers, historians, economists, and social scientists of every stripe. And that is a testament to the power of his intellect

 

[BidenPresident]

Oh right, I forget he got a philosophy PhD in school.

His primary life's work in England though was focused on economics, history, political theory - aka, the social sciences.

Ultimately, I do not think Marx was that interested in metaphysics. He certainly considered his approach to historical determinism and economics to be scientific.

It is perfectly fair though, to say that Marx influenced generations of philosophers, historians, economists, and social scientists of every stripe. And that is a testament to the power of his intellect

Okay.