Is the death penalty expiring?

Mojo said:
Perhaps you might put your bloodlust on hold for just a moment and consider the following:

"Practical considerations are moving states – and juries – away from capital punishment. A big factor is cost, driven up by the lengthy appeals process and the expense of investigation and litigation when a life is at stake. Kansas estimates, for example, that the median cost of a death penalty case is 70 percent higher than for a murder case where the death penalty is not given.

Juries are also more cautious about mistaken convictions (139 people sentenced to death have been exonerated since 1973). The Supreme Court, too, has narrowed the field of those who may be executed, eliminating juveniles and those diagnosed as mentally retarded. And the death penalty is not an effective deterrent against crime.

But the moral argument against capital punishment should not be forgotten. A government’s job is to preserve life, not compound a terrible wrong by taking another life. A death sentence cuts off the opportunity for redemption and leans on an outdated concept of justice based on revenge.

The practical concerns spurring the anti-death-penalty trend are important, but circumstances can change. The moral imperative does not."

http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2010/0108/Switching-off-the-death-penalty
Click to expand...

OHHHHH!!
Would you care to say how any of this short list can be redeemed?

Dahmer confessed to 15 murders
Murderer Charlie Manson
Serial killer, David Berkowitz
Gary Ridgway, murdered 71
Donald Harvey, murdered 87
Juan Corona, murdered 25
Charles Cullen, murdered 18
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
OHHHHH!!
Would you care to say how any of this short list can be redeemed?

Dahmer confessed to 15 murders
Murderer Charlie Manson
Serial killer, David Berkowitz
Gary Ridgway, murdered 71
Donald Harvey, murdered 87
Juan Corona, murdered 25
Charles Cullen, murdered 18
Click to expand...

No.
 
Damocles said:
Again, the limits we put on the power of government ensure that the rights we have are not infringed by the same. Therefore, we will continue to allow all of those things. You must work within the framework of those limits.

Would you rather live in genpop getting raped by gang leaders who are in a continuous power struggle and owning your beeyotch a$$ helps them on the way, or would you rather go to sleep quietly? Which would you want the rest of your life to look like?

I'll bet that living the rest of your life in what most of us would consider a personal hell is a better punishment than a long life of "watching tv" as you say waiting to see if you'll get that next appeal.
Click to expand...


But what about those that are the ones doing the raping, of those convicted of lesser crimes?
Is that fair to them?
 
The death penalty pendulum has always swung first to the extreme left, "show compassion", to the extreme right, "Kill them all".
What I find amazing is how it never seems to stop in the middle.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
But what about those that are the ones doing the raping, of those convicted of lesser crimes?
Is that fair to them?
Click to expand...

That people who were convicted of more serious crimes weren't killed? Why would it matter to them any way? Is it going to make their sentence any less severe?

I mean, we can go on and on with this. Is it fair to a guy who got convicted of murdering and raping just two people got the same death sentence as someone who was convicted of murdering and raping 20 people? Or if you respond by coming up with something barbaric, the guy who murdered and raped 20 people getting the same [insert barbaric thing here] as the 9/11 terrorists?
 
CERVIXCRUSHER9000 said:
They monitor all of the prisoners mail. I watched it before, and they got their evidence because the prisoner would send out a letter that essentially said "kill this guy" and then that guy would die. I was like, why in the hell would you allow that letter to be sent? How stupid do you have to be? Just goes to show how Republicans will allow crimes to happen specifically just so they can get joy out of punishing people for them.
Click to expand...

?
 
Damocles said:
Hence you create a different form of life in prison for these cases. Anyway, most serial killers are not "gangs" and they control nothing. You think Dahmer enjoyed being beaten to death while in genpop or would he have preferred the protection of those facing the death penalty?
Click to expand...

Dahmer and another serial killer were beaten to death by a schizophrenic serial killer while they were cleaning a gym. He wasn't in the general population
 
CERVIXCRUSHER9000 said:
That people who were convicted of more serious crimes weren't killed? Why would it matter to them any way? Is it going to make their sentence any less severe?

I mean, we can go on and on with this. Is it fair to a guy who got convicted of murdering and raping just two people got the same death sentence as someone who was convicted of murdering and raping 20 people? Or if you respond by coming up with something barbaric, the guy who murdered and raped 20 people getting the same [insert barbaric thing here] as the 9/11 terrorists?
Click to expand...

I'm not sure what your response has to do with what I posted; but it appears that you believe that only murderers are housed with murderers. :palm:
Would you care to try and respond, once more? :good4u:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
So it's OK for other criminals to remove a murderer from this world, as long as it wasn't done by the Courts!! :palm:
Click to expand...

Uhmmm... no.

It annoys me when people try to turn to Dahmer as an example of heroic prison "justice". I was just trying to give an account closer to reality to point out how it wasn't even anything like they imagine.
 
Last edited:
USFREEDOM911 said:
So then why do you want murderers given the chance to sexually abuse and maybe even murder those convicted of lesser crimes?
Click to expand...

Prison rape happens because guards don't keep a close enough eye on the prisoners, and also, in many cases, because the guards encourage it or turn a blind eye towards it. Why don't prisons in other countries without the death penalty have the same problems with prison violence that we do in the US with the death penalty?
 
CERVIXCRUSHER9000 said:
Prison rape happens because guards don't keep a close enough eye on the prisoners, and also, in many cases, because the guards encourage it or turn a blind eye towards it. Why don't prisons in other countries without the death penalty have the same problems with prison violence that we do in the US with the death penalty?
Click to expand...

You truly are a prole, if you believe that prisons in other countries don't have the same problems that we do in ours. :palm:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top