Is the death penalty expiring?

USFREEDOM911 said:
So then why do you want murderers given the chance to sexually abuse and maybe even murder those convicted of lesser crimes?
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I think many of the people who are so vehemently against the death penalty would have a sudden and life altering change in that opinion if their spouse and children were systematically tortured, raped, and then burned beyond recognition like the poor Petit family was.


It's so easy to claim moral superiority and wax philosophical about the heinousness of the death penalty when you haven't experienced that kind of event; having to imagine every waking and sleeping moment what kind of torture and fear your loved ones faced before death released them for their torment.

Take care of the ones on death row who don't belong there, but take care of the ones who do.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
I think many of the people who are so vehemently against the death penalty would have a sudden and life altering change in that opinion if their spouse and children were systematically tortured, raped, and then burned beyond recognition like the poor Petit family was.


It's so easy to claim moral superiority and wax philosophical about the heinousness of the death penalty when you haven't experienced that kind of event; having to imagine every waking and sleeping moment what kind of torture and fear your loved ones faced before death released them for their torment.

Take care of the ones on death row who don't belong there, but take care of the ones who do.
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You're assuming that all people whose loved ones have been killed by criminals thirst for vengeance.

Can you provide evidence of that assumption?

While we're at it, what about the families of those wrongfully executed?

Do you spare a thought for them " having to imagine every waking and sleeping moment what kind of torture and fear your loved ones faced before death released them for their torment"?
 
Mojo said:
You're assuming that all people whose loved ones have been killed by criminals thirst for vengeance.

Can you provide evidence of that assumption?

While we're at it, what about the families of those wrongfully executed?

Do you spare a thought for them " having to imagine every waking and sleeping moment what kind of torture and fear your loved ones faced before death released them for their torment"?
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Never said all people. You did. Go bark up another tree. I don't have to explain myself to you or to anyone. My opinion and feeling about the death penalty are just as valid as yours.

You're an argument looking for a place to happen and it appears you've been called on it a lot.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
Never said all people. You did. Go bark up another tree. I don't have to explain myself to you or to anyone. My opinion and feeling about the death penalty are just as valid as yours.

You're an argument looking for a place to happen and it appears you've been called on it a lot.
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So your opinion was not based on any factual evidence. Got it.
 
Mojo said:
So your opinion was not based on any factual evidence. Got it.
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What I get is you think you can set the tone and content of a good amount of the discussions here. The only thing you got, is a major attitude, so when you want to adjust the volume so everyone's voice can be heard along with their opinions, then I will engage you.

Until then, stuff it schitschtick.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
What I get is you think you can set the tone and content of a good amount of the discussions here. The only thing you got, is a major attitude, so when you want to adjust the volume so everyone's voice can be heard along with their opinions, then I will engage you.

Until then, stuff it schitschtick.
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Run along, then.
 
usaloyal2theend said:
I think many of the people who are so vehemently against the death penalty would have a sudden and life altering change in that opinion if their spouse and children were systematically tortured, raped, and then burned beyond recognition like the poor Petit family was.


It's so easy to claim moral superiority and wax philosophical about the heinousness of the death penalty when you haven't experienced that kind of event; having to imagine every waking and sleeping moment what kind of torture and fear your loved ones faced before death released them for their torment.

Take care of the ones on death row who don't belong there, but take care of the ones who do.
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I agree.
But then; they'll probably say that the Petit family MUST have done something, for this to happen to them.
 
"Nearly 60 current and former prosecutors and judges, police chiefs, governors, crime victims and exonerees want the state's highest criminal court to allow an unusual hearing on the Texas death penalty to continue.

A court hearing in Houston was put on hold earlier this month after the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals granted a request by prosecutors to stop it.

The hearing had been ordered by a state district judge who is considering a motion in a capital murder case on whether the Texas death penalty statute is unconstitutional.

The amicus brief filed Wednesday says the hearing would allow the public to be informed about risks that innocent individuals could be convicted and executed in Texas."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/7350644.html
 
I'm on the fence on the death penalty. On one hand, I don't like the idea of the state deciding who lives and who dies, as that is arguably too much power for the government to have over it's citizenry. On the other hand, there is a certain degree of satisfaction when an unrepentant serial rapist/killer is handed the ultimate penalty. Sometimes it seems like the only fitting punishment.
 
I am opposed to the DP, but I do tend to wish horrible death upon the purpetrators of violent crimes when they are reported in the news.

Since I can't resist this thread's title, though, I think you will tend to find that people who are given the death penalty are apt to expire. :D
 
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