Is the Romney bounce fading?

"Mitt Romney is closing the gap on President Barack Obama among likely Hispanic Florida voters, a majority of whom say they're not better off than four years ago, according to a new Florida International University/Miami Herald/El Nuevo Herald poll.
Obama is ahead of Romney 51 to 44 percent among Hispanics, a relatively narrow lead that could spell trouble for a Democratic campaign that's counting on minority support as non-Hispanic white voters flock to the Republican ticket in droves. "

and from USA Today-
"In the swing states, the power of women
A new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of the Swing States shows Mitt Romney with a lead among likely voters as he strengthens his standing with women in the nation's top battlegrounds"
 
morf13 said:
"Mitt Romney is closing the gap on President Barack Obama among likely Hispanic Florida voters, a majority of whom say they're not better off than four years ago, according to a new Florida International University/Miami Herald/El Nuevo Herald poll.
Obama is ahead of Romney 51 to 44 percent among Hispanics, a relatively narrow lead that could spell trouble for a Democratic campaign that's counting on minority support as non-Hispanic white voters flock to the Republican ticket in droves. "

and from USA Today-
"In the swing states, the power of women
A new USA TODAY/Gallup Poll of the Swing States shows Mitt Romney with a lead among likely voters as he strengthens his standing with women in the nation's top battlegrounds"
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Looks like Obama's still smearing Captain MagicUndies with the Hispanic voters. And you've offered absolutely nothing substantive about women voters.

Next....
 
What I find most fascinating is Jughead's obsession with the RCP daily average, as if this is some kind of 'secret pulse beat' into the heart and mind of our political souls. As if the numbers he analyzes are indicative of individual perceptions or thoughts on a daily basis. As if our collective mind can't make itself up, and we are conflicted between which of these men we support for president. We wake each day like Groundhog Day, not knowing who we plan to vote for... we scope out the latest scuttlebutt at the various 'cites' (as Jughead calls them), and we formulate our individual pick of who we will support based on what 'media' has to say about what the candidates have said. Then RCP calls us and we give Jughead all this information to discern and run here to tell us how America is waking up and seeing the light now! All the sudden!

The thing is... I happen to think a large majority of us, already knew how we would vote in this election two years ago, or more. Nothing has really changed that would sway that opinion, and that will continue to be the case in the foreseeable future, until some 'unifying' voice emerges and forms a counter-dynamic to the left-right extremism currently driving both parties. It doesn't matter if you are left, right or center, that pretty much is the reality of the world we live in. Jughead lives in a completely different world, along with Desh and many others, who simply have a 'sheep' mentality, and follow the memes from their sheep herders. Right now, that is to do everything conceivably possible to help Obama win... doesn't matter if it's honest or dishonest, civil or uncivil, or even ethical in any imaginable sense, as long as it is effective at manipulating perceptions and generating a sense of winning for Obama.

I just hope their mentality toward Obama losing will be the same as their mentality toward Obama's failures to deliver on virtually ANY of his promises. ....Oh well, at least he tried! ....Oh well, at least Liberalism tried! Maybe after this, they will resign themselves to the fact that, like Gitmo, you can't always DO what you believe you can do and want to do. Sometimes, you have to settle for a necessary evil, and you can't fix the problems as simply as you thought. Things are more complicated in the real world, than in a college philosophy or sociology class. Platitudes and promises SOUND good, but what beneficial purpose do we gain from simply hearing them articulated in speeches?

The polls are split, Jughead. The nation is divided. This fundamental isn't going to change in the next few weeks, and perhaps not even in our lifetime, I don't know. The question of who will win this election is only found in analysis of who is going to actually go to the polls and vote, and we won't know that for certain until election day.
 
Bijou said:
Indeed. Call it any kind of 'logic' you want. He revealed his true character with his 47% remarks. That's why his debate bumps will be meaningless on November 6th.
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Ok... I will call it bad 'logic', poor 'logic', irrational 'logic.

Bottom line, it makes no sense, if it was going to be the deciding factor, the nail in the coffin, then he would not be getting a bump regardless of the debate performance. He would be losing ground not making it up.
 
Bijou said:
That comment captures and defines all previous sociopathic actions a la Bain Capital and the rest of his 'entitled' actions, including but not limited to hiding his money in tax shelters, then justifying why 'you people' aren't privy to that info about a presidential candidate. I needn't offer anything further. Romney did all the heavy lifting himself.
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LMAO... is sociopath(ic) the new word of the day from the left wing nuts?
 
Superfreak said:
Ok... I will call it bad 'logic', poor 'logic', irrational 'logic.

Bottom line, it makes no sense, if it was going to be the deciding factor, the nail in the coffin, then he would not be getting a bump regardless of the debate performance. He would be losing ground not making it up.
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Yeah.

We'll see on November 6th.
 
Bijou said:
That comment captures and defines all previous sociopathic actions a la Bain Capital and the rest of his 'entitled' actions, including but not limited to hiding his money in tax shelters, then justifying why 'you people' aren't privy to that info about a presidential candidate. I needn't offer anything further. Romney did all the heavy lifting himself.
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just because you see it that way, doesn't mean the electorate sees it that way. And so far, I appear to be right as you are unable to present any evidence to back up your assertions other than your very own words and speculation.
 
Q _ Q Give no reprieve said:
just because you see it that way, doesn't mean the electorate sees it that way. And so far, I appear to be right as you are unable to present any evidence to back up your assertions other than your very own words and speculation.
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I don't need to present any evidence. All of us - you included - are merely discussing and speculating. My speculations are based on observations I've made about the facts of Romney's actions. He will lose on November 6th. I don't need to 'back that up'. We will see if I'm correct on November 6th.
 
I dont mind speculation, I just don't like it coated in the veneer of objective truth. Also saying he will lose the election is not the same thing as saying he will lose the election because of the 47% comment, which is what we are specifically arguing about.
 
Q _ Q Give no reprieve said:
I dont mind speculation, I just don't like it coated in the veneer of objective truth. Also saying he will lose the election is not the same thing as saying he will lose the election because of the 47% comment, which is what we are specifically arguing about.
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My speculations aren't 'coated' in anything. That is simply the result of you reading in what you choose to read in.

My speculations are based on my observations and judgment of Romney's actions.

The 47% remarks made speak directly about Romney's character and sociopathy, both of which define him as unfit for the job. If you need to parse it to mean the comments themselves, rather than what the comments determine about the man, then by all means knock yourself out.
 
Seems like all the liberals are the same. They see that the numbers are slipping for Obama and Romney is gaining in almost every poll in several states,yet they don't want to admit that the undecided voters are coming home for Romney. Let's face it, if you are a stone cold Republican, you will vote for Romney over Obama. If you are a dyed in the wool Democrat, you will vote for Obama. Those things will not change, there is simply a divide in the country with two separate ides of where to go. It will come down to the 'undecided' voters. And which way do they usually break? Towards the challenger. They have had Obama for 4 years, they know what they are getting,they have seen him in action. They want to hear something that gives them confidence before they go with the challenger. It is evident by the polls that they got that from Romney,and it reflects in the polls. And guess what,as more details come to light in the latest terror attack in Libya, Obama will continue to slide as people see he is a failure in both domestic & foreign issues.
 
Bijou said:
I don't need to present any evidence. All of us - you included - are merely discussing and speculating. My speculations are based on observations I've made about the facts of Romney's actions. He will lose on November 6th. I don't need to 'back that up'. We will see if I'm correct on November 6th.
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No, they are not based on facts. If the public was so against that one comment that it would decide the election, the public would ALREADY be drifting away from Romney and his numbers would be going down, not up. That is clearly not the case.
 
Superfreak said:
No, they are not based on facts. If the public was so against that one comment that it would decide the election, the public would ALREADY be drifting away from Romney and his numbers would be going down, not up. That is clearly not the case.
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We'll see on November 6th. :)
 
First it was the Romney taxes, now its the 47% comment. In the words of Obama, "When you don't have a record to run on you run from your record". In this case, Obama supporters are reaching for anything they can as far as Romney goes,instead of putting all of Obama's 'accomplishments' out there and pushing those.
 
yeah, as superfreak said, this really isn't an opinion based thing. You should have some type of data to back up your assertion. You can't say a single comment is costing/will cost romney the election without some type of evidence.

It's like saying Romney might lose the election because he is a bad dancer, then when he loses saying "see, told you he lost cause he's a bad dancer!"

It doesn't make any sense, and we would be right to be like "uhhhhh do you have any basis for that at all?"
 
Superfreak said:
No, we have already seen now. That comment did not sink Romney as you proclaimed.

His possibly losing on Nov 6th won't change that.
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You have no way of knowing that. Fluctuations caused by polls and debates come to mean absolutely nothing on Election day.

The reasons for his loss on Election Day will be due to the voters' perception of him, which is based on their judgment of his character, which is assessed according to what has been revealed about him, past and present.
 
Q _ Q Give no reprieve said:
yeah, as superfreak said, this really isn't an opinion based thing. You should have some type of data to back up your assertion. You can't say a single comment is costing/will cost romney the election without some type of evidence.

It's like saying Romney might lose the election because he is a bad dancer, then when he loses saying "see, told you he lost cause he's a bad dancer!"

It doesn't make any sense, and we would be right to be like "uhhhhh do you have any basis for that at all?"
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Right. The idea of a candidate losing because voters decide they like the other guy - it has nothing to do with his character.

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