Is there even one single sensible and sane Republican here?

Question: Do note I'm an Independent and have been since I first registered to vote many decades ago...

Anyway, question. Why is voting for Biden "sensible and sane?"

Then there's this bit of ranting...



First, I doubt seriously that any state will secede. After all, that was tried once by mostly Democrat run states about 150 years ago and ended very badly for them.
As for taxes v. spending, what you claim is mostly not true when you remove spending in a state, any state, that is not politically or population dependent. That is, spending on things like military bases (located where they are for reasons not related to the state in most cases), spending for national parks, monuments, etc., and the like. If you toss in federally owned land that is essentially fallow or all but fallow in a state, like national forests, wilderness, or much of BLM land, the results tip badly in favor of blue states getting more than they put in.

This is the same sort of fallacy Progressives use when they talk about illegal immigration as "immigration" conflating legal and illegal immigration as if the two were the same and interchangeable. It is an attempt to dilute what otherwise is an awful picture for their position.

Independent is often code for more right than a Republican, and usually entails voting for the R. Recently, however, it includes me and my type also, (more left than a Tea hick or Trumptard, more right than a Democrat.)
There would be material legislative efforts to secede if Trump is reelected. I agree it wouldn't be muskets and powder. Happily I believe it will not happen, Trump is going to lose bigtime.

Assuming arguendo there are subsidiary facts that undercut the fact that Blue States give to the federal coffers more than Red states, well, first of all that does not represent an example of a logical fallacy, and second, you failed to present data to prove that.

I can easily post the many charts we have all seen demonstrating my point, so, ball is in your court, break out the facts in some way that makes low output low paying states
whose politicians are successful in boondoggling are actually doing a lousy job and so Montana is supporting New York, as opposed to the conventional wisdom based on the raw
gross budgets and public finance which is the exact opposite. Yours are failed states, in the red year after year w/r/to the federal government. Stated otherwise, yours are extremely successful
politicians who are great at getting an oversized share of the goodies and at the same time whining about socialism and communism. Hubris, rural welfare queen snowflake!
 
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This thread has been totally successful, not a single Republican can admit Trump is a failure and they will vote for Biden to avoid 4 years
more of this decline and strife and societal earthquake.
 
He's a victim of propaganda. I'm no liberal, but I see women with 2 year old crying babies living on the street next to a dumpster and I say we can do better than
Trumpfuckonomics.

To Fascists, this is doing well. Fascism is all about hierarchy. They want a super richt elite at the top and a struggling underclass dying in the streets at the bottom.
 
Is there even one single sensible and sane Republican here

There has never been one since it's existence.

Their ideology is born from racism and oppression. To think there have ever been any is dismissing the oppression and racism we are fight for today.

Their agenda hasn't changed since 1861.........to make sure Blacks stay oppressed and in chains.

Decent, sane people aren't for racism and oppresion
 
Who sees the need for the pendulum to swing and to admit he will vote for Biden over Trump?

or are you all really the fucking racist hate filled morons you appear to be or rather the weak childish pussies whose egos are so wrapped
up with e-friendships and e-support from the deplorable scum here that you can't even admit (anonymously no less)
that this country CANNOT WITHSTAND four more years of Trump.

If Trump is president again, I guarantee a huge and serious secessionist movement from many blue states
which provide MOST of the money this country runs on. If you want to pull the plug on the American experiment, ideal and
deprive your own states of the blessings of liberty, which includes the giant wealth transfers our productive states
make to your deplorable one, vote Trump again.

Any Republican with any courage at all willing to admit pulling the lever for a Democratic nominee to help save
the USA you grew up in and once loved? Doesn't mean you can't vote R the next go round. But we REALLY
need you this once to save America.

I'm betting not a single R will admit they will vote Biden. I would wager my soul some will.:cool:
And more certainly should.

False dichotomy OP.

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Who sees the need for the pendulum to swing and to admit he will vote for Biden over Trump?

or are you all really the fucking racist hate filled morons you appear to be or rather the weak childish pussies whose egos are so wrapped
up with e-friendships and e-support from the deplorable scum here that you can't even admit (anonymously no less)
that this country CANNOT WITHSTAND four more years of Trump.

If Trump is president again, I guarantee a huge and serious secessionist movement from many blue states
which provide MOST of the money this country runs on. If you want to pull the plug on the American experiment, ideal and
deprive your own states of the blessings of liberty, which includes the giant wealth transfers our productive states
make to your deplorable one, vote Trump again.

Any Republican with any courage at all willing to admit pulling the lever for a Democratic nominee to help save
the USA you grew up in and once loved? Doesn't mean you can't vote R the next go round. But we REALLY
need you this once to save America.

I'm betting not a single R will admit they will vote Biden. I would wager my soul some will.:cool:
And more certainly should.

Here? One or two aren't bad but it's hard to find ones that aren't deranged or just trolls.
 
I guarantee a huge and serious secessionist movement

"Insanity-Stupid"

Post teen dementia.

One delusional pipe dream followed by the next delusional pipe dream.

Homeless surge?

How about "Insanity-Stupid" surge?

There's an up-tick of "Insanity-Stupid" ---don't let anyone acknowledge it!
 
Watch what happens if Trump loses and refuses to leave office, claiming voter fraud.

They'll all jump into that line without even thinking of the consequences.

If Trump refuses to leave, the Secret Service will drag his ass out. If they wouldn't, Delta Force would. I find it odd that anyone thinks he could refuse to leave.

But then, I also find it odd that people want to replace one privileged, old, perverted guy with one just like him.
 
Who sees the need for the pendulum to swing and to admit he will vote for Biden over Trump?
Certainly not me.
or are you all really the fucking racist hate filled morons you appear to be or rather the weak childish pussies whose egos are so wrapped
up with e-friendships and e-support from the deplorable scum here that you can't even admit (anonymously no less)
Insult fallacies. Hardly the way to get votes.
that this country CANNOT WITHSTAND four more years of Trump.
Nah. It's time to continue to drain the swamp...Biden included.
If Trump is president again, I guarantee a huge and serious secessionist movement from many blue states
You don't get to speak for everyone. You only get to speak for you.
which provide MOST of the money this country runs on.
Lie, and money is not wealth.
If you want to pull the plug on the American experiment, ideal and
deprive your own states of the blessings of liberty, which includes the giant wealth transfers our productive states
Insult fallacy. All States are productive.
make to your deplorable one, vote Trump again.
Insult fallacy. No States in the Union are 'deplorable'. All 49 States are productive. We even want to welcome the SOTC back into the Union if they are willing to return to a republican form of government.
Any Republican with any courage at all willing to admit pulling the lever for a Democratic nominee to help save
the USA you grew up in and once loved?
Biden is the last thing concerning the USA that I grew up in and still love.
Doesn't mean you can't vote R the next go round.
Nope. Trump has been an excellent President, and I will happily vote for him again.
But we REALLY need you this once to save America.
America doesn't need 'saving'. It has not been lost. Biden would certainly take it down the road to further damage, should he get the chance. Biden wants to implement fascism by oligarchy (assuming he can figure out how to tie his shoes first!).
I'm betting not a single R will admit they will vote Biden. I would wager my soul some will.:cool:
I don't wager my soul or give it away like you do.
And more certainly should.
Why? Change? Biden has been in government since 1973! He's always been the same idiot during all that time. Why should I vote for the swamp?
 
Existential threat to decency ^^^

Another reason not to vote for Biden. Talking about hairy legs? In front of kids that are on the stage with him?? Boasting about his threatening foreign leaders and implicating Obama as co-conspirator for personal gain (illegal!!!)?? Calling a black supporter non-black and berating him for the question he asked (racism!)??
 
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