Isn't it ironic?

Dixie said:
This is where you really piss me off. You are interpreting something incorrectly here, and it needs to be pointed out before you get punched in the mouth. Republicans are NOT OPPOSED TO HELPING PEOPLE! Republicans contest continually and endlessly extending UI benefits, because we have to be realistic. At some point, we have to draw the line and say, sorry... can't do any more UI! We just can't keep paying people not to work, Apple. This is a classic example of how Liberalism clashes with reality and the viewpoint of conservatives. Many moons ago, Republicans and Democrats came together and agreed, we need to have some safety net in place for people who lose their jobs, so we invented unemployment insurance. We talked about it, and decided that 12 weeks was an appropriate amount of time for someone to look for another job and find something reasonably acceptable. Everyone should have been happy! The Liberals got what they wanted, to help people in need, the Republicans capitulated and allowed the program to be established.... but everyone was not happy, were they, Apple? Since then, Liberals have pushed for more and more time... 18 weeks... 24 weeks... 52 weeks... and we are now over 2 years, and pressing for more! When Republicans stand up and say, wait a minute.... they are hooted down by miscreants like you, claiming they don't want to help people!

IF there were any way to verify and confirm it, I would love to compare what I do yearly for the needy to what you do. I'd be willing to bet everything I own, that I am more benevolent than you in my personal life. And that's how it often is with Conservatives and Liberals, because while Conservatives believe in rolling up their sleeves and helping others with their individual effort, Liberals believe in stealing the money out of the pockets of others and giving it to someone else....that's how they help!
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I support government programs because it avoids the free rider problem. I'm not a naive idiot.

Dixie said:
You don't want to have to lift a finger to help anyone, because you know that you won't help anyone, and it makes you think that everyone is as selfish and self-centered, and so you've developed a political philosophy around that.
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It doesn't even matter if they're selfish and self-centered. If I run a company, and there is no federal minimum wage, and I decide to take it upon myself to be the good guy and pay it all on my lonesome, I'm going to go out of business. We shouldn't even expect companies to do that. If companies are allowed to pay disgustingly low wages, it is the fault of society for abandoning its duty to protect its citizens, not the fault of the companies for doing what they had to do. If we can avoid this situation, which no one truly wants, but are forced into anyway, by passing a law that mandates a minimum wages, why on Earth shouldn't we? Should we plug our ears and sing "la-la-la-la-la", and pretend that such situations do not exist, and are truly the best for everybody? When did the last defense of conservatism become idiotic naivety?

We could solve the prisoners dilemna easily by taking away the option that harms the other, and everyone would be better off. Yet no, we can't do that! The right to live in misery and shit is our most precious of freedoms!
 
ID you can always tell when you've made a brilliant point with a Liberal, can't you? They just don't know how to respond, so they start acting even stupider than normal and nitpicking the superficial. Well done!
 
General Sherman said:
Do you think the government should specifically go out of its way to change the formula for giving out food stamps based on how many people are in the food stamp program, rather than need?
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I think we should completely dismantle the program because it doesn't work and we have far too much fraud and abuse. A much BETTER idea for helping the poor, was what we did before we had food stamps. The agriculture department sent out trucks of commodities to distribute locally, and those in need could go get basic essentials from the commodity truck. I've had government cheese and peanut butter, it's not that bad. Our soldiers eat government food everyday. If I were poor and unable to buy food, it would be pretty damn good. Why did we abandon that program? Why are food stamps better?
 
General Sherman said:
Do you think the government should specifically go out of its way to change the formula for giving out food stamps based on how many people are in the food stamp program, rather than need?
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interesting question......here's another......is clear cutting forests the best way to handle the ecology?......maybe we could start threads and discuss these off topic issues sometime......
 
Dixie said:
I think we should completely dismantle the program because it doesn't work and we have far too much fraud and abuse. A much BETTER idea for helping the poor, was what we did before we had food stamps. The agriculture department sent out trucks of commodities to distribute locally, and those in need could go get basic essentials from the commodity truck. I've had government cheese and peanut butter, it's not that bad. Our soldiers eat government food everyday. If I were poor and unable to buy food, it would be pretty damn good. Why did we abandon that program? Why are food stamps better?
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Sounds inefficient to send out a truck to every community in America, especially often enough to feed a needy family. This also seems to essentially eliminate fraud checking.
 
General Sherman said:
Sounds inefficient to send out a truck to every community in America, especially often enough to feed a needy family. This also seems to essentially eliminate fraud checking.
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Well, there wasn't a truck for every community, THE truck came once a month, and if you needed something, you had to be there. I honestly don't see your point about fraud checking. We obviously know who is supposed to get food stamps now, don't we? So, if we put a real live government official in a truck and send them to the community, is there some reason verification of the recipient would change? I don't get it. Either you would be eligible to get commodities or your wouldn't, and the officials would have the list. Now.... the fraud it WOULD eliminate, is the crafty and clever individual who has figured out a way to collect 5x the food stamps by using fake SSNs, etc... the shady liquor store owner, who will take $75 in food stamps for $50 in booze... recipients purchasing ground chuck for their mutt because dog food can't be bought with food stamps.... those kinds of frauds will be literally non-existent with the commodity truck.
 
So in order to reduce the bureaucracy in the food stamp program, all we have to do is socialize the supply chain and food production. Brilliant, dixie. And the supply chain doesn't even reach all communities, and it comes once a month, so if a family misses it, they die. And they have to carry an entire month worth of food for an entire family with them. There's no easier or more sensible way to do this.
 
General Sherman said:
So in order to reduce the bureaucracy in the food stamp program, all we have to do is socialize the supply chain and food production. Brilliant, dixie. And the supply chain doesn't even reach all communities, and it comes once a month, so if a family misses it, they die. And they have to carry an entire month worth of food for an entire family with them. There's no easier or more sensible way to do this.
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Easy to solve the problem the Dixie way, just do an airdrop over the huddled masses and let them fight for the food amongst themselves. True Darwinism in action.
 
General Sherman said:
Yes, because the recession was caused by a sudden outbreak of laziness. One day, people were strong and hard working. The next, everyone decided to start slacking off, and their strong, responsible bosses just had to fire them. Then they refused to look for jobs for far longer than people do when they normally get themselves fired. Truly an odd situation.
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You realize I was being sarcastic no?
 
Dixie said:
Our soldiers eat government food everyday.
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Do you know WHY they eat 'government food' (distributed by the for profit corporation SODEXHO)? Because every paycheck they have money DEDUCTED from their pay so they can eat there. In essence single service members (married ones are prohibited from eating at chow halls) PAY for that food whether they eat it or not. And a good portion don't.
 
General Fuckwitts said:
So in order to reduce the bureaucracy in the food stamp program, all we have to do is socialize the supply chain and food production. Brilliant, dixie. And the supply chain doesn't even reach all communities, and it comes once a month, so if a family misses it, they die. And they have to carry an entire month worth of food for an entire family with them. There's no easier or more sensible way to do this.
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TommyBoy said:
Easy to solve the problem the Dixie way, just do an airdrop over the huddled masses and let them fight for the food amongst themselves. True Darwinism in action.
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Above is a classic example of "pinhead leapfrog logic." Notice, the first pinhead sets up the false illusion that I have articulated a fascist socialist idea, and the second pinhead leapfrogs the first, indicating that I have advocated something off the charts and ridiculous. Truly amazing to watch them in their natural habitat like this!

Remember, we once had this system in place, and people didn't die of starvation. They got their asses to the commodity truck if they wanted groceries, and if they missed it, their families and neighbors would help them out until next month. No big deal. And for what we are currently paying to implement a Food Stamp program, we could afford to send the commodity trucks once a week! Hell, better yet, for the BILLIONS we are spending, we could probably deliver the commodities by Fed-Ex cheaper! The point is, there is a BETTER way to help those who are truly in need, and it's not the way we are doing it now.
 
Dixie said:
Above is a classic example of "pinhead leapfrog logic." Notice, the first pinhead sets up the false illusion that I have articulated a fascist socialist idea, and the second pinhead leapfrogs the first, indicating that I have advocated something off the charts and ridiculous. Truly amazing to watch them in their natural habitat like this!

Remember, we once had this system in place, and people didn't die of starvation. They got their asses to the commodity truck if they wanted groceries, and if they missed it, their families and neighbors would help them out until next month. No big deal. And for what we are currently paying to implement a Food Stamp program, we could afford to send the commodity trucks once a week! Hell, better yet, for the BILLIONS we are spending, we could probably deliver the commodities by Fed-Ex cheaper! The point is, there is a BETTER way to help those who are truly in need, and it's not the way we are doing it now.
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leapfrog may be an inaccurate analogy, as I have seen liberals frequently performing both steps in solo......while trying to imagine a liberal playing leap frog with himself may solve the mystery of why they frequently are found with their head up their ass, the nimbleness necessary to accomplish the feat without assistance from a pack of liberals would be considered prohibitive......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
leapfrog may be an inaccurate analogy, as I have seen liberals frequently performing both steps in solo......while trying to imagine a liberal playing leap frog with himself may solve the mystery of why they frequently are found with their head up their ass, the nimbleness necessary to accomplish the feat without assistance from a pack of liberals would be considered prohibitive......
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Does anybody know what the bejasus PiMP is on?
 
General Buck Turgidson said:
The Park Service is part of the Interior Department, you ignorant piece of shit.
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It is also a danger to people to feed the animals, it is for both the animals and people safety. I guess she wants children to starve, since they are the biggest beneficiaries of food stamps. She is so pro life, it makes me gag.
 
apple0154 said:
Doesn't the Bible say there will always be poor among us? While it may be impossible to completely eradicate poverty that doesn't mean we can't help people.

Remember the Repubs contesting the extension of UI benefits? Obviously someone eligible for UI benefits did work so it shows the Repubs are not interested in helping people. They use dependency and laziness as an excuse not to help.
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Isn't it evident, she hates Jesus, blessed are the poor, theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
 
General Sherman said:
Yes, because the recession was caused by a sudden outbreak of laziness. One day, people were strong and hard working. The next, everyone decided to start slacking off, and their strong, responsible bosses just had to fire them. Then they refused to look for jobs for far longer than people do when they normally get themselves fired. Truly an odd situation.
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I love your sarcasm, more, please!
 
Darla said:
Wow. See I have missed a lot because the woman-haters have kept me busy on another thread. So ID writes something that is wrong, DH calls her on it, she goes back and edits her post to correct herself, and she owned him?

And comparing human beings to animals, that is so nice.

Does this apply to people who scam "free computers and internet access" from the taxpayer?

Let me guess, that's different...
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Yes, because it is her and she believes in objectivism! I get mine, screw the rest of you!
 
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