IT'S A MIRACLE! Kids on school lunch programs come back from the summer well-fed!

How did this miracle happen?

  • It's a good point, obviously they can get by without school lunches

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • Why do you not want to help starving kids?

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • I am only too happy to have my taxes feed hungry kids.

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • Oh yes Dano, make the Republican party run that as their national platform

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • WHY DO YOU NOT WANT TO HELP STARVING KIDS!?!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I can think of other things we should cut, so that makes this program ok

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    6

TheDanold

Unimatrix
I was always told by lefties that without the school lunch program, some kids would be starving, that it is the only meal they get in some cases, that without it they would go hungry as their parents were too poor to feed them.

Yet after missing weeks of school during the summer vacation, these kids who had school lunches came back to school miraculously in good shape, well-fed and looking the same.

How was this miracle accomplished!?!
 
I was always told by lefties that without the school lunch program, some kids would be starving, that it is the only meal they get in some cases, that without it they would go hungry as their parents were too poor to feed them.

Yet after missing weeks of school during the summer vacation, these kids who had school lunches came back to school miraculously in good shape, well-fed and looking the same.

How was this miracle accomplished!?!

Haha good point. And funny.
 
Also I think it is worth it to note that alot of the parents of these kids are paying out even more in daycare in the summer because the kid isn't at school all day.
 
Pick your battles Dano. Instead of railing against poor kids and subsidized lunches that probably cost the states a few million dollars each... How about you rail about the billions of dollars wasted in Iraq?

I think billions of dollars wasted in Iraq is more important than 2 million dollars that is used by the state of NY.

CK
 
Pick your battles Dano. Instead of railing against poor kids and subsidized lunches that probably cost the states a few million dollars each... How about you rail about the billions of dollars wasted in Iraq?

I think billions of dollars wasted in Iraq is more important than 2 million dollars that is used by the state of NY.

CK

Hey - wars end. Kids getting proper nourishment lasts FOREVER....
 
Largely through the Summer Food Service Program.

Any other questions, Einstein?
I looked this up as I never heard of it before, it's a very little used program and I'm sure you know that. It also involves kids going to activity programs in order to get the meal, which if you've ever lived in a poor area is not what most kids do. They are at the park or hanging around the house.

Good try though.
 
I was always told by lefties that without the school lunch program, some kids would be starving, that it is the only meal they get in some cases, that without it they would go hungry as their parents were too poor to feed them.

Yet after missing weeks of school during the summer vacation, these kids who had school lunches came back to school miraculously in good shape, well-fed and looking the same.

How was this miracle accomplished!?!

BE HONEST... did i get you started on this school lunch thing?? :cof1:
 
Largely through the Summer Food Service Program.

Any other questions, Einstein?
Also I'd further add that kids also miss a lot of school in something we call "weekends" and "holidays". Amazingly they also seem to return from these "weekends" and "holidays" without any trace of starvation and intact.
Yet another miracle, how was that accomplished. :confused:
 
Interesting stats at this link:

http://www.secondharvest.org/who_we_help/hunger_facts.html

Children

Over 9 million children are estimated to be served by the America's Second Harvest Network, over 2 million of which are ages 5 and under, representing nearly 13% of all children under age 18 in the United States and over 72% of all children in poverty. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 5.3.2N)
According to the USDA, an estimated 12.4 million children lived in food insecure households in 2005. (USDA/ERS, Household Food Security in the United States: 2005)
Proper nutrition is vital to the growth and development of children, particularly for low-income children. 62% of all client households with children under the age of 18 participated in a school lunch program, but only 13% participated in a summer feeding program that provides free food when school is out. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 7.4.1 )
51% of client households with children under the age of 3 participated in the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC). (Hunger in America 2006; Table 7.4.1)
Nearly 41% of emergency food providers in the America's Second Harvest Network reported "many more children in the summer" being served by their programs. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 10.9.1)
Emergency food assistance plays a vital role in the lives of low-income families. In 2002, over half of the nonelderly families that accessed a food pantry at least once during the year had children under the age of 18. (Urban Institute, Many Families Turn to Food Pantries for Help, November 2003)
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Poverty

According to our most recent hunger study, 66% of all America's Second Harvest client households have annual household incomes at or beneath the poverty line. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 5.8.4.1)
17.5% of all client households have annual incomes between 100% and 185% of the federal poverty level. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 5.8.4.1)
6.2% have annual incomes of 186% of poverty or more. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 5.8.4.1)
The number of people below the poverty threshold numbered 36.5 million in 2006, a rate of 12.3% of all Americans. (U.S. Census Bureau, Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2006)
The average annual income in 2004 among client households served by the America's Second Harvest Network was $11,210. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 5.8.4.1 )
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Food Insecurity

An estimated 35.1 million Americans are food insecure (low food security and very low food security); meaning their access to enough food is limited by a lack of money and other resources. (USDA/ERS, Household Food Security in the United States: 2005)
41.5% of all client households served by the America's Second Harvest Network reported having to choose between buying food and paying for utilities or heat within the previous 12 months. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 6.5.1)
More than one-third (35%) of client households reported having to choose between paying for food and paying their rent or mortgage. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 6.5.1)
Nearly one-third (31.6%) of client households reported having to choose between paying for food and paying for medicine or medical care. (Hunger in America 2006; Table 6.5.1)
6% of households with seniors (1.6 million households) were food insecure (low food security and very low food security) (USDA/ERS, Household Food Security in the United States: 2005).
 
I looked this up as I never heard of it before, it's a very little used program and I'm sure you know that. It also involves kids going to activity programs in order to get the meal, which if you've ever lived in a poor area is not what most kids do. They are at the park or hanging around the house.

Good try though.


Nice rebuttal Danecdote but I'm not buying it.
 
Dungheap,

From Lorax's list:
"62% of all client households with children under the age of 18 participated in a school lunch program, but only 13% participated in a summer feeding program that provides free food when school is out."

No wonder I never heard of it and obviously even you can admit that the discrepancy in the numbers shows obvious waste, if not assumed.
 
I'd also add that "starvation" isn't the issue, but preventing kids from going hungry and getting them proper nourishment. I realize why you want to move the goalposts, but lets be honest here.
 
Nice rebuttal Danecdote but I'm not buying it.

Ok then tell me how they get by in the Christmas break? They come back from that looking the same and well fed.

Also was there any starving kids before school lunch programs like in the 1920's.
Other countries also seem to get by without them and they have less obesity problem.
 
Dungheap,

From Lorax's list:
"62% of all client households with children under the age of 18 participated in a school lunch program, but only 13% participated in a summer feeding program that provides free food when school is out."

No wonder I never heard of it and obviously even you can admit that the discrepancy in the numbers shows obvious waste, if not assumed.

I would wager that has more to do with awareness, but it's still a fair #.

No one is dying of starvation out there, but there is povery & hunger, and I have no doubt that many households often make the choice between a utility bill & a meal.

Way to cherrypick, though...
 
"Also was there any starving kids before school lunch programs like in the 1920's."

Yeah, Rob-o - Dano is really wiping the floor with this kind of brilliance...
 
How does it show "obvious waste?" You never heard of the program because you don't give shit about it. Not surprising.

I'd add that while 13% is a low participation rate, we're talking about 2 million kids. That's slightly more than a handful.
 
I'd also add that "starvation" isn't the issue, but preventing kids from going hungry and getting them proper nourishment. I realize why you want to move the goalposts, but lets be honest here.
If you want to be honest, how many kids did you know that just skipped breakfast because they'd rather sleep in or threw away the healthy or gross food their parents put in their lunch or refused to eat their supper because they didn't like it?
I knew plenty who did some of that including myself.
The hunger issue is exxagerated, if you want blunt honesty we have a terrible obesity problem, and it's MORE concentrated at the poorer income levels.

Time to ditch the 19th century Hugoesque vision of the poor starving bread stealing child, live in this age instead.
 
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